Delta Virtual Airlines Water Cooler - Flight Distance outside Aircraft Range

Delta Virtual Airlines Water Cooler | Airline Operations | Flight Distance outside Aircraft Range

DVA3068
Captain, L-1011-100

Joined on April 18 2006
Online Double Century Club
Quincentenary Club

"I'm retired... go around!"
Grand Prairie, TX USA

585 legs, 1,540.2 hours
466 legs, 1,250.8 hours online
553 legs, 1,456.8 hours ACARS
7 legs, 23.3 hours event
788 legs, 2,051.8 hours total

Posted onPost created on June 27 2008 09:39 ET by Gary Fournerat

Hello Gentlemen,

Need a little help understanding how something like this can happen (and whether or not it's worth the hassle of fixing)...

Took off in my fleet L1011-100 (N728DA) on the DVA8012-1 flight (KDFW/EDDF), which is 5,136 NM. The flight took 10h24m.. yes, not exactly a walk around the park. Upon loading up with fuel, I took on 154,388.0 lbs (14,300 lbs short of filling her up), and then headed out across the Atlantic. I'm now told that the L1011-100 can't fly that far. Uhhh, what? Does the ACARS flight log, or the VATSIM flight report, not show that I just flew the aircraft 5,136 NM?.. and I didn't even have full tanks when I lifted off.. I could've flown for another hour.

Apparently, the fuel tanks on the fleet L1011-100 are too large, or the fuel consumption rate(s) are not calibrated correctly for the Rolls Royce engines. I don't know which, but I do know having my 10+ hour flight trashcanned because the distance I flew is outside of a FLEET aircraft's range is begging for trouble.

Sincerely,

Gary Fournerat

Captain, L-1011-100

DVA043
Senior Captain, MD-11
OLP

Joined on June 10 2001
Event Half Century Club
Online Double Century Club
50 State Club
DVA Twenty-Year Anniversary
Everett 1500 Club
Bi-Millennium Club
Four Million Mile Club

"Col. Panic"
Marietta, GA

2,347 legs, 9,466.0 hours
240 legs, 553.9 hours online
2,005 legs, 8,259.1 hours ACARS
75 legs, 196.3 hours event
2,383 legs, 9,600.9 hours total
91 legs dispatched, 66.4 hours

Posted onPost created on June 27 2008 10:29 ET by Luke Kolin

I'd ping Don to take a peek. Either way the flight is going to be approved, but I'd like to hear his thoughts on the fuel burn. If I need to tweak the rate I have an L-1011 update I am trying to get out the door this weekend.

Worry not.

Cheers!

Luke Kolin

Senior Captain, MD-11

Posted onPost created on June 27 2008 11:49 ET by Gary Fournerat

Does your update include simicons on the panel (particularly for the GPS and radio stack)? I finally figured out why I've never been able to get the GPS simicon to work, and I have it working now in my L1011 panel. If you want the fix to be included in this upcoming update, just let me know and I'll email it to both Don and you.

All the best,

Gary Fournerat

Captain, L-1011-100

DVA5897
Captain, B737-800

Joined on May 05 2008

"Icare, Icare, Ubi es?"
Western Europe

21 legs, 38.4 hours
10 legs, 24.3 hours online
20 legs, 37.4 hours ACARS
1 legs, 2.8 hours event

Posted onPost created on June 30 2008 09:48 ET by Peter Mortelmans

Where did you get the range of that aircraft? Did you have fuel reserves, fuel for deviation to an alternate airport, etc...? Was you aircraft maximally loaded? And since you were fling to the east, you probably had wind in the back?

Peter Mortelmans

Captain, B737-800

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