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DVA1379
Senior Captain, B747-400
OLP
Joined on November 07 2003
50 State Club
Event Half Century Club
Online Fifteen Century
Bi-Millennium Club
Everett Millennium Club
Corn Belt Club
Three Million Mile Club
DVA Twenty-Year Anniversary
Western United States
2,776 legs, 8,127.9 hours
1,837 legs,
4,365.2 hours online
2,239 legs,
6,623.2 hours ACARS
58 legs,
136.4 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
October 19 2004 14:59 ET by Kyle Weber
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Hi everyone,
Over the last few weeks I've noticed Air France Virtual has hit the ground running and his continuing to grow. I was wondering if DVA had any plans to incorporate any other SkyTeam partners such as Northwest, Continental, El Al, etc. as full blown branches of DVA?
Thanks!
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DVA1379
Senior Captain, B747-400
OLP
Joined on November 07 2003
50 State Club
Event Half Century Club
Online Fifteen Century
Bi-Millennium Club
Everett Millennium Club
Corn Belt Club
Three Million Mile Club
DVA Twenty-Year Anniversary
Western United States
2,776 legs, 8,127.9 hours
1,837 legs,
4,365.2 hours online
2,239 legs,
6,623.2 hours ACARS
58 legs,
136.4 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
October 27 2004 05:44 ET by Kyle Weber
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Guess not lol. Oh well - good luck with Air France Virtual.
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DVA1641
Captain, B777-200
Joined on March 22 2004
Everett Century Club
Globetrotter
Double Century Club
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary
"NATCA - FAA Controller"
Hartford, CT
292 legs, 1,319.5 hours
66 legs,
235.0 hours online
222 legs,
1,105.0 hours ACARS
5 legs,
35.2 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
October 27 2004 14:11 ET by Rob Hernandez
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i was wonderin the same thing, kyle. I know that there is a continental and northwest alliance out there somewhere. i think it would be a good idea to link up w/ them, like AVA and british airways.
Rob HernandezCaptain, B777-200
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DVA1892
Senior Captain, MD-11
Joined on September 13 2004
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary
Eurocap Club
Online Triple Century Club
White Pearl Accomplishment
Quatercentenary Club
Everett Century Club
"Fly Douglas Jets!"
Buenos Aires AR
460 legs, 1,384.1 hours
336 legs,
1,086.5 hours online
271 legs,
726.6 hours ACARS
12 legs,
24.6 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
October 27 2004 15:44 ET by Gaston Doval
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AAL and British Airways in real life form part of the "oneworld alliance" not SkyTeam, as Delta, Continental, AirFrance/KLM/NorthWest, Czech Airlines and Korean Air do... so, I don't see if you we are simulating reality, why should we link with AVA or BAV
Cheers!
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DVA1650
Captain, L-1011-100
Joined on April 24 2004
Century Club
"The O-N-L-Y Way to Fly!"
Southeastern United States
103 legs, 174.7 hours
49 legs,
94.5 hours online
2 legs,
2.1 hours ACARS
2 legs,
3.2 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
October 27 2004 16:49 ET by Daniel Malneritch
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That's a good question. BTW, El Al is not part of SkyTeam, they're just a Delta codeshare partner.
Daniel MalneritchCaptain, L-1011-100
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DVA1641
Captain, B777-200
Joined on March 22 2004
Everett Century Club
Globetrotter
Double Century Club
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary
"NATCA - FAA Controller"
Hartford, CT
292 legs, 1,319.5 hours
66 legs,
235.0 hours online
222 legs,
1,105.0 hours ACARS
5 legs,
35.2 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
October 28 2004 14:06 ET by Rob Hernandez
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no i didnt mean link up w/ AVA and BAW, i meant like AVA and BAW. Virtually, they have an alliance, as in real life, w/ each other and LanChile, Cathy n some other ones
Rob HernandezCaptain, B777-200
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DVA1641
Captain, B777-200
Joined on March 22 2004
Everett Century Club
Globetrotter
Double Century Club
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary
"NATCA - FAA Controller"
Hartford, CT
292 legs, 1,319.5 hours
66 legs,
235.0 hours online
222 legs,
1,105.0 hours ACARS
5 legs,
35.2 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
October 28 2004 14:08 ET by Rob Hernandez
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opps didnt finish correcting myself I meant hookup w/ the virutal counterparts of COA and NWA.
Rob HernandezCaptain, B777-200
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DVA1650
Captain, L-1011-100
Joined on April 24 2004
Century Club
"The O-N-L-Y Way to Fly!"
Southeastern United States
103 legs, 174.7 hours
49 legs,
94.5 hours online
2 legs,
2.1 hours ACARS
2 legs,
3.2 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
October 28 2004 14:08 ET by Daniel Malneritch
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That's interesting. How does this "virtual alliance" work?
Daniel MalneritchCaptain, L-1011-100
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DVA1892
Senior Captain, MD-11
Joined on September 13 2004
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary
Eurocap Club
Online Triple Century Club
White Pearl Accomplishment
Quatercentenary Club
Everett Century Club
"Fly Douglas Jets!"
Buenos Aires AR
460 legs, 1,384.1 hours
336 legs,
1,086.5 hours online
271 legs,
726.6 hours ACARS
12 legs,
24.6 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
October 28 2004 16:17 ET by Gaston Doval
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That would be really cool, unless we are planning in creating ourselves the whole of the SkyTeam airlines...
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DVA043
Senior Captain, MD-11
OLP
Joined on June 10 2001
Event Half Century Club
Online Double Century Club
50 State Club
DVA Twenty-Year Anniversary
Everett 1500 Club
Bi-Millennium Club
Four Million Mile Club
"Col. Panic"
Marietta, GA
2,347 legs, 9,466.0 hours
240 legs,
553.9 hours online
2,005 legs,
8,259.1 hours ACARS
75 legs,
196.3 hours event
2,383 legs, 9,600.9 hours total
91 legs dispatched, 66.4
hours
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Posted onPost created on
October 28 2004 20:30 ET by Luke Kolin
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Sorry about the delay in getting back to you. You may be interested to know that the Air France connection was one of the reasons I selected Delta as the virtual airline I would join back in May of 2001. My goal has been to have an Air France for a number of years now, and I would not close the door entirely on any other airline.
However, with that said I'd like to reiterate my philiosophy on the subject. I don't want to overexpand and add airlines for the sake of coverage, nor do I want to be a "virtual SkyTeam". The two "other" Delta Virtual Airlines are parts of the SimAirline.net and Flying Tigers groups, and these two groups have a significantly different attitude towards different airlines than us.
You will note that both groups have in excess of a dozen different virtual airlines, and I believe a lot of the flavour and character of the airlines they replicate has been lost, especially since both seem to be expanding agressively lately. I want to ensure that we faithfully duplicate the character of the airlines we model, and do so in a first-rate fashion. That's why we've created our historical equipment programs, and have extensive documentation on our aircraft. It's more than just flying routes (you can do that already via our codeshares) but it's really bringing an airline to life for its afficionados.
My other concern is that I have no intentions of stepping on anyone's toes. There are competent and friendly virtual airlines based upon Continental and Northwest out on the Internet. We participate with one of them (VCA) on a semi-regular basis, and we share pilots with both. I don't want to waste my time and energy replicating an existing VATSIM-based virtual airline when I can focus on new directions.
AFV is a bit of an experiment. Can two virtual airlines coexist within the same framework here? If it succeeds, my gut is telling me that maybe Aeroflot might be the next, most interesting and most complementary airline. Experience should tell you that any further expansion is years (not months) away.
Cheers!
Luke KolinSenior Captain, MD-11
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DVA1379
Senior Captain, B747-400
OLP
Joined on November 07 2003
50 State Club
Event Half Century Club
Online Fifteen Century
Bi-Millennium Club
Everett Millennium Club
Corn Belt Club
Three Million Mile Club
DVA Twenty-Year Anniversary
Western United States
2,776 legs, 8,127.9 hours
1,837 legs,
4,365.2 hours online
2,239 legs,
6,623.2 hours ACARS
58 legs,
136.4 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
October 30 2004 11:09 ET by Kyle Weber
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Oh ok...thank you.
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DVA1650
Captain, L-1011-100
Joined on April 24 2004
Century Club
"The O-N-L-Y Way to Fly!"
Southeastern United States
103 legs, 174.7 hours
49 legs,
94.5 hours online
2 legs,
2.1 hours ACARS
2 legs,
3.2 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
October 30 2004 12:57 ET by Daniel Malneritch
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Wow, sounds like you've got great ambitions, Luke. And I like your philoshophy. 
Daniel MalneritchCaptain, L-1011-100
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DVA630
Senior Captain, B777-200
Joined on June 22 2002
Million Mile Club
DVA Twenty-Year Anniversary
Eight Century Club
Online Seven Century Club
Everett 250 Club
B757 100 Club
"Flightsimaroma therapy."
Bainbridge, PA
873 legs, 2,775.4 hours
783 legs,
2,429.4 hours online
487 legs,
1,454.8 hours ACARS
19 legs,
64.1 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
November 04 2004 13:56 ET by Kenneth Rodriguez
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Very well put Luke. I believe that a VA that has a well thought out process is aligning itself up for many years of success. I mean, let's face it. There are plenty of VA's available on the internet and there are many to cater to almost everyone's individual desires and virtual needs.
Ask yourselves this question. "Why did I join Delta Virtual and why am I still here?" Get my point? The answer can be found right there.
VA's that become too big for their bridges at some point lose their attractiveness and their VA pilots begin searching elsewhere. It is pretty moot if you're filling up a bucket on top, but you have a hole on the bottom that is leaking. Having participated with several VA's (American Flight Airways; Delta Virtual and American Virtual...and yes in that order), I have found myself truly dedicated to DVA. There is alot more to offer here than there is with alot of other VA's, and that holds as a testimonial to the hard work and well thought out processes that DVA has implemented through it's years of existence.
I agree with the vision and direction that Terry, Luke and the management team have established for this Virtual Airline.
You don't alway's have to be the biggest, to be the best!
Regards,
Ken
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DVA1178
Captain, B737-800
Joined on April 13 2003
Midwestern United States
69 legs, 127.6 hours
5 legs,
9.3 hours online
11 legs,
26.7 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
November 06 2004 04:27 ET by Ralph Scharpf
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the reason I'm staying at THIS Delta VA is for all the reasons Luke talked about.
Something is lost when you can fly almost any airline. It's just too much. For me, anyway, it takes away the "feel" that I enjoy of being a Virtual Pilot for a virtual airline.
Jeff
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