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DVA8854
Captain, CRJ-200
Joined on July 27 2010
"Atlanta Approach, we have a problem."
Williamsburg, VA USA
18 legs, 24.0 hours
17 legs,
21.9 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
August 02 2010 17:00 ET by Jordan Seymour
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http://www.deltava.org/pirep.do?id=0x8620d
It was about -53 feet/minute for those too lazy to follow the link and my fps was about 8.94. I had bounced on the landing. I touched down with -46, bounced, and stayed down with -53.
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DVA7498
Senior Captain, B737-800
OLP
E-MAIL
Joined on July 05 2009
Quatercentenary Club
Online Quadruple Century Club
"ETOPS " Engines Turn Or Passengers Swim""
Loganville, GA USA
421 legs, 1,597.8 hours
401 legs,
1,552.0 hours online
416 legs,
1,583.7 hours ACARS
39 legs,
123.8 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
August 02 2010 17:55 ET by Gerhardt Poku
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I just looked at your flight data, oh my that is alot of reds, also it looks like you touchdown first at -470fpm 4.766gs and then bounced again on the runway a few more times.
Gerhardt PokuSenior Captain, B737-800
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DVA7899
Captain, B737-800
Joined on October 29 2009
Online Double Century Club
Long Beach Century Club
Triple Century Club
DVA Ten-Year Anniversary
"PMDG or go home :)"
Springfield, MO USA
304 legs, 743.8 hours
283 legs,
682.2 hours online
303 legs,
740.0 hours ACARS
30 legs,
47.9 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
August 02 2010 18:27 ET by Skylar Macminn
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Do I count 5 bounces?
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DVA7885
Captain, A330-300
Joined on October 23 2009
Triple Century Club
Online Triple Century Club
"That's what she said..."
Midwestern United States
328 legs, 597.5 hours
319 legs,
570.4 hours online
323 legs,
587.8 hours ACARS
448 legs, 794.0 hours total
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Posted onPost created on
August 02 2010 18:28 ET by Antonio King
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Gerhardt Poku wrote:
I just looked at your flight data, oh my that is alot of reds, also it looks like you touchdown first at -470fpm 4.766gs and then bounced again on the runway a few more times.
That's what it's showing for me too. That'll rattle some brains in the CRJ!
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DVA8854
Captain, CRJ-200
Joined on July 27 2010
"Atlanta Approach, we have a problem."
Williamsburg, VA USA
18 legs, 24.0 hours
17 legs,
21.9 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
August 02 2010 18:29 ET by Jordan Seymour
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As far as I know, I only bounced once, though I may be wrong.
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DVA8854
Captain, CRJ-200
Joined on July 27 2010
"Atlanta Approach, we have a problem."
Williamsburg, VA USA
18 legs, 24.0 hours
17 legs,
21.9 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
August 02 2010 18:30 ET by Jordan Seymour
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Oh, I know what you guys might be seeing. I got bored when I was flying over the ocean so I bounced off the water a couple of times.
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DVA7899
Captain, B737-800
Joined on October 29 2009
Online Double Century Club
Long Beach Century Club
Triple Century Club
DVA Ten-Year Anniversary
"PMDG or go home :)"
Springfield, MO USA
304 legs, 743.8 hours
283 legs,
682.2 hours online
303 legs,
740.0 hours ACARS
30 legs,
47.9 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
August 02 2010 18:31 ET by Skylar Macminn
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zoom in on the data for landing, it has 5 different purple markers, all at or around 059 feet
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DVA8854
Captain, CRJ-200
Joined on July 27 2010
"Atlanta Approach, we have a problem."
Williamsburg, VA USA
18 legs, 24.0 hours
17 legs,
21.9 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
August 02 2010 18:33 ET by Jordan Seymour
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I'm positive that I didn't touchdown that many times.
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DVA7899
Captain, B737-800
Joined on October 29 2009
Online Double Century Club
Long Beach Century Club
Triple Century Club
DVA Ten-Year Anniversary
"PMDG or go home :)"
Springfield, MO USA
304 legs, 743.8 hours
283 legs,
682.2 hours online
303 legs,
740.0 hours ACARS
30 legs,
47.9 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
August 02 2010 18:34 ET by Skylar Macminn
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Jordan Seymour wrote:
I'm positive that I didn't touchdown that many times.
the data seems inconsistent with what you think then That's all im sayin
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DVA8854
Captain, CRJ-200
Joined on July 27 2010
"Atlanta Approach, we have a problem."
Williamsburg, VA USA
18 legs, 24.0 hours
17 legs,
21.9 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
August 02 2010 18:35 ET by Jordan Seymour
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Erm... the data may be wrong because it says I touched down nearly 20 times in-flight and around the time of many of those, I was nearly 20000 feet up.
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DVA7885
Captain, A330-300
Joined on October 23 2009
Triple Century Club
Online Triple Century Club
"That's what she said..."
Midwestern United States
328 legs, 597.5 hours
319 legs,
570.4 hours online
323 legs,
587.8 hours ACARS
448 legs, 794.0 hours total
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Posted onPost created on
August 02 2010 18:35 ET by Antonio King
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It looks like you started sinking, jammed the throttle up to reduce the G-Forces, and floated down the runway. Speed is a bit high for a CRJ.
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DVA7899
Captain, B737-800
Joined on October 29 2009
Online Double Century Club
Long Beach Century Club
Triple Century Club
DVA Ten-Year Anniversary
"PMDG or go home :)"
Springfield, MO USA
304 legs, 743.8 hours
283 legs,
682.2 hours online
303 legs,
740.0 hours ACARS
30 legs,
47.9 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
August 02 2010 18:36 ET by Skylar Macminn
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Jordan Seymour wrote:
Erm... the data may be wrong because it says I touched down nearly 20 times in-flight and around the time of many of those, I was nearly 20000 feet up.
*sigh* nevermind ill not bother with this
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DVA3050
Captain, A330-300
Joined on April 13 2006
Online Double Century Club
50 State Club
Triple Century Club
"go fast or go home"
Boston, MA USA
306 legs, 893.4 hours
264 legs,
785.7 hours online
274 legs,
793.3 hours ACARS
28 legs,
70.7 hours event
842 legs, 2,782.9 hours total
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Posted onPost created on
August 02 2010 19:01 ET by Michael Schlabowske
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Jordan Seymour wrote:
Oh, I know what you guys might be seeing. I got bored when I was flying over the ocean so I bounced off the water a couple of times.
watch tv, play a video game, do some sodoku, better yet read the CRJ manual and learn about your a/c so you dont have all these issues...... but man Im suprised this even got approved, you crashed in the water. how could you be bored during a flight this short? atleast one of those landings was decent, if your jet actually was fished outta the Atlantic 
Michael SchlabowskeCaptain, A330-300
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DVA2701
Senior Captain, B777-200
OLP
Joined on November 21 2005
50 State Club
Everett 500 Club
Million Mile Club
Globetrotter
Online Nine Century
Millennium Club
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary
Denver, CO
1,041 legs, 3,309.1 hours
997 legs,
3,153.7 hours online
1,020 legs,
3,263.5 hours ACARS
21 legs,
38.4 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
August 02 2010 19:14 ET by Dean Shultz
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I've never seen so many red dots on a flight before. Did this get accepted?
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DVA8562
Captain, B747-400
Joined on April 30 2010
50 State Club
Double Century Club
"...and I was gonna learn to fly. HC"
Prescott Valley, AZ
230 legs, 449.5 hours
229 legs,
448.1 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
August 02 2010 19:52 ET by Robert Delorenzo
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Well I'll say this much Jordan...you are improving...your first touchdown (the one that really counts) of this flight was at
-470fpm...much better than your previous flights of -1400 or -1500...
However...your frame rate is still very low..you should keep making further adustments in your settings...you need to be at 15 or 20 fps at the very least to be able to properly control an aircraft...
Also try using the autopilot to help you maintain proper speed and altitude..especially above 10k feet...and also...read, read, read...
Robert DelorenzoCaptain, B747-400
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DVA8854
Captain, CRJ-200
Joined on July 27 2010
"Atlanta Approach, we have a problem."
Williamsburg, VA USA
18 legs, 24.0 hours
17 legs,
21.9 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
August 02 2010 20:01 ET by Jordan Seymour
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I've tried using autopilot for speed and altitude, but it doesn't do anything.
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DVA7885
Captain, A330-300
Joined on October 23 2009
Triple Century Club
Online Triple Century Club
"That's what she said..."
Midwestern United States
328 legs, 597.5 hours
319 legs,
570.4 hours online
323 legs,
587.8 hours ACARS
448 legs, 794.0 hours total
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Posted onPost created on
August 02 2010 20:03 ET by Antonio King
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Jordan Seymour wrote:
I've tried using autopilot for speed and altitude, but it doesn't do anything.
That's because the CRJs don't have an autothrottle, which means you have to control the speed manually. You have to manage the altitude by yourself as well. All of this is probably in the CRJ manual.
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DVA8562
Captain, B747-400
Joined on April 30 2010
50 State Club
Double Century Club
"...and I was gonna learn to fly. HC"
Prescott Valley, AZ
230 legs, 449.5 hours
229 legs,
448.1 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
August 02 2010 20:06 ET by Robert Delorenzo
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Antonio King wrote:
Jordan Seymour wrote:
I've tried using autopilot for speed and altitude, but it doesn't do anything.
That's because the CRJs don't have an autothrottle, which means you have to control the speed manually. You have to manage the altitude by yourself as well. All of this is probably in the CRJ manual.
I'm pretty sure the fleet models do have an AT...
Robert DelorenzoCaptain, B747-400
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DVA3952
Captain, MD-88
Joined on September 07 2006
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary
"Airbus, Mcdonnell Douglas"
Chicago, IL USA
85 legs, 161.3 hours
51 legs,
106.0 hours online
77 legs,
141.3 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
August 02 2010 20:11 ET by Alex Jevdic
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Jordan I suggest you do the FS flying lessons, they will make u a much better FS pilot. They worked for me and make sure you look at the ground school stuff too.
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DVA7885
Captain, A330-300
Joined on October 23 2009
Triple Century Club
Online Triple Century Club
"That's what she said..."
Midwestern United States
328 legs, 597.5 hours
319 legs,
570.4 hours online
323 legs,
587.8 hours ACARS
448 legs, 794.0 hours total
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Posted onPost created on
August 02 2010 20:14 ET by Antonio King
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Robert Delorenzo wrote:
I'm pretty sure the fleet models do have an AT...
Really? I wonder why?
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DVA8562
Captain, B747-400
Joined on April 30 2010
50 State Club
Double Century Club
"...and I was gonna learn to fly. HC"
Prescott Valley, AZ
230 legs, 449.5 hours
229 legs,
448.1 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
August 02 2010 20:21 ET by Robert Delorenzo
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Jordan Seymour wrote:
I've tried using autopilot for speed and altitude, but it doesn't do anything.
Perhaps you didn't see the last part of my next to last post...read, read, read...this... http://www.deltava.org/library/CRJ-200%20Manual.pdf... and especially the FSX manual...
Also there is a very good tutorial in the fleet crj200 fleet manual...take your time and go through it step by step...if you have trouble understanding what to do...post some specific questions...instead of asking broad questions like..."How do I land"...and making broad statements like..."I've tried using autopilot for speed and altitude, but it doesn't do anything."
Your trying to run before you can crawl...slow down...one step at a time... 
"Before you learn to fly...learn how to fall"...Paul Simon
Robert DelorenzoCaptain, B747-400
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DVA8562
Captain, B747-400
Joined on April 30 2010
50 State Club
Double Century Club
"...and I was gonna learn to fly. HC"
Prescott Valley, AZ
230 legs, 449.5 hours
229 legs,
448.1 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
August 02 2010 20:25 ET by Robert Delorenzo
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Antonio King wrote:
Robert Delorenzo wrote:
I'm pretty sure the fleet models do have an AT...
Really? I wonder why?
They make a reference to engaging the AT in the manual...and the panel looks like it has one...I may be wrong...sorry if I am...I know for sure the FSX default CRJ700 has an AT...I only fly the Wilco CRJ and I know that it does not have an AT...
Robert DelorenzoCaptain, B747-400
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DVA3196
Senior Captain, MD-11
OLP, COMM
Joined on June 03 2006
Online Double Century Club
50 State Club
Six Century Club
"pitchpowertrim.com"
Anderson, MO
619 legs, 1,093.4 hours
292 legs,
503.1 hours online
580 legs,
1,026.5 hours ACARS
89 legs,
191.0 hours event
236 legs dispatched, 110.1
hours
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Posted onPost created on
August 02 2010 20:57 ET by Michael Brown
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I just happened to capture Jordan's landing on video....check it out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1VxZjBTQT8
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DVA3050
Captain, A330-300
Joined on April 13 2006
Online Double Century Club
50 State Club
Triple Century Club
"go fast or go home"
Boston, MA USA
306 legs, 893.4 hours
264 legs,
785.7 hours online
274 legs,
793.3 hours ACARS
28 legs,
70.7 hours event
842 legs, 2,782.9 hours total
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Posted onPost created on
August 02 2010 20:59 ET by Michael Schlabowske
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Michael Brown wrote:I just happened to capture Jordan's landing on video....check it out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1VxZjBTQT8
I didnt see a bounce???? Seriously Jordan we all were in your shoes at one point, the only way you get better is practice practice practice, and read read read
Michael SchlabowskeCaptain, A330-300
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DVA8562
Captain, B747-400
Joined on April 30 2010
50 State Club
Double Century Club
"...and I was gonna learn to fly. HC"
Prescott Valley, AZ
230 legs, 449.5 hours
229 legs,
448.1 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
August 02 2010 21:02 ET by Robert Delorenzo
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Michael Brown wrote:I just happened to capture Jordan's landing on video....check it out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1VxZjBTQT8
Way too funny Mr. Brown...Decidedly unhelpful...but way funny... 
I sure do hope Jordan has a healthy sense of humor...and very thick skin... 
Robert DelorenzoCaptain, B747-400
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DVA3196
Senior Captain, MD-11
OLP, COMM
Joined on June 03 2006
Online Double Century Club
50 State Club
Six Century Club
"pitchpowertrim.com"
Anderson, MO
619 legs, 1,093.4 hours
292 legs,
503.1 hours online
580 legs,
1,026.5 hours ACARS
89 legs,
191.0 hours event
236 legs dispatched, 110.1
hours
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Posted onPost created on
August 02 2010 21:04 ET by Michael Brown
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...i'm much better at comic relieve than teaching... 
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DVA8562
Captain, B747-400
Joined on April 30 2010
50 State Club
Double Century Club
"...and I was gonna learn to fly. HC"
Prescott Valley, AZ
230 legs, 449.5 hours
229 legs,
448.1 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
August 02 2010 21:11 ET by Robert Delorenzo
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Michael Brown wrote:...i'm much better at comic relieve than teaching...
Noo...really...?  Yea, we kinda' get that Michael...and it certainly appears that we all have our different strengths...and weaknesses...and some of them are the same... 
Robert DelorenzoCaptain, B747-400
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DVA2989
Captain, A320
E-MAIL
Joined on September 10 2002
Double Century Club
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary
Online Double Century Club
Green Bay, WI USA
240 legs, 425.4 hours
224 legs,
400.8 hours online
229 legs,
411.2 hours ACARS
8 legs,
13.2 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
August 02 2010 21:34 ET by Adam Robillard
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lol that video is hilarious...
Adam RobillardCaptain, A320
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DVA043
Senior Captain, MD-11
OLP
Joined on June 10 2001
Event Half Century Club
Online Double Century Club
50 State Club
DVA Twenty-Year Anniversary
Everett 1500 Club
Bi-Millennium Club
Four Million Mile Club
"Col. Panic"
Marietta, GA
2,347 legs, 9,466.0 hours
240 legs,
553.9 hours online
2,005 legs,
8,259.1 hours ACARS
75 legs,
196.3 hours event
2,383 legs, 9,600.9 hours total
91 legs dispatched, 66.4
hours
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Posted onPost created on
August 02 2010 22:59 ET by Luke Kolin
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Some silliness deleted. Please try and post actual content. OKTHXBYE
Cheers!
Luke KolinSenior Captain, MD-11
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DVA8562
Captain, B747-400
Joined on April 30 2010
50 State Club
Double Century Club
"...and I was gonna learn to fly. HC"
Prescott Valley, AZ
230 legs, 449.5 hours
229 legs,
448.1 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
August 02 2010 23:26 ET by Robert Delorenzo
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Luke Kolin wrote:
Some silliness deleted. Please try and post actual content. OKTHXBYE
Cheers!
You missed one... 
Michael Brown wrote:I just happened to capture Jordan's landing on video....check it out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1VxZjBTQT8
Robert DelorenzoCaptain, B747-400
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DVA8854
Captain, CRJ-200
Joined on July 27 2010
"Atlanta Approach, we have a problem."
Williamsburg, VA USA
18 legs, 24.0 hours
17 legs,
21.9 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
August 02 2010 23:27 ET by Jordan Seymour
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Luke, I believe it's supposed to be KTHXBAI
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DVA5919
Captain, MD-11
Joined on May 13 2008
Everett Century Club
50 State Club
Commuter Conquest
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary
Quincentenary Club
"...and don't call me Shirley"
Hillsboro, OR USA
507 legs, 1,438.9 hours
4 legs,
3.7 hours online
506 legs,
1,436.4 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
August 03 2010 00:23 ET by Jack Vogel
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I guess Jordan was just trying to maximize his landings in the shortest time 
BTW Michael, thanks for that, almost as funny as the drunk cub pilot!
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DVA8105
Captain, B747-400
Joined on December 20 2009
Century Club
Online Century Club
50 State Club
"Are you gangsters? No we are Russian"
Seattle, WA USA
180 legs, 627.7 hours
168 legs,
599.7 hours online
179 legs,
625.9 hours ACARS
2 legs,
5.0 hours event
407 legs, 1,136.9 hours total
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Posted onPost created on
August 03 2010 00:23 ET by Matthew Kerby
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Jordan Seymour wrote:
Luke, I believe it's supposed to be KTHXBAI
Your already on a first name basis with the VP?
Matthew KerbyCaptain, B747-400
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DVA8180
Senior Captain, B747-400
OLP, 737-ATP, VFRADV
Joined on January 09 2010
50 State Club
Globetrotter
DVA Fleet Master
US Mountaineer Club
US Coastal Club
Tri-Millennium Club
Online Century Club
Three Million Mile Club
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary
Everett Bi-Millennium Club
Lynchburg, VA
3,853 legs, 9,178.5 hours
140 legs,
226.6 hours online
3,807 legs,
9,038.4 hours ACARS
19 legs,
30.8 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
August 03 2010 00:36 ET by Matt Lynn
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The NTSB and the FAA are looking into this flight!!! Several Boats between KJFK and KACK are missing parts that they claim were removed by a low flying fast flying CRJ-200 with Delta Colors!!!
Matt LynnSenior Captain, B747-400
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DVA043
Senior Captain, MD-11
OLP
Joined on June 10 2001
Event Half Century Club
Online Double Century Club
50 State Club
DVA Twenty-Year Anniversary
Everett 1500 Club
Bi-Millennium Club
Four Million Mile Club
"Col. Panic"
Marietta, GA
2,347 legs, 9,466.0 hours
240 legs,
553.9 hours online
2,005 legs,
8,259.1 hours ACARS
75 legs,
196.3 hours event
2,383 legs, 9,600.9 hours total
91 legs dispatched, 66.4
hours
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Posted onPost created on
August 03 2010 00:39 ET by Luke Kolin
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Jordan Seymour wrote:
Luke, I believe it's supposed to be KTHXBAI
It's official. I'm old and uncool.
In a desperate attempt to add content to this thread, based on what ACARS has recorded of your landings you appear to be coming in a touch too high. Have you been tuning in the ILS or looking at the PAPI lights?
Cheers!
Luke KolinSenior Captain, MD-11
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DVA8854
Captain, CRJ-200
Joined on July 27 2010
"Atlanta Approach, we have a problem."
Williamsburg, VA USA
18 legs, 24.0 hours
17 legs,
21.9 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
August 03 2010 11:12 ET by Jordan Seymour
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I've been doing most of my landings with a visual approach.
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DVA1427
Senior Captain, MD-11
OLP
Joined on December 14 2003
Online Double Century Club
50 State Club
Tri-Jet Triumph
Globetrotter
Moose Club
US Capital Club
Everett 250 Club
Quincentenary Club
DVA Twenty-Year Anniversary
"Livin' in the Dog Pound!"
Kannapolis, NC
558 legs, 1,984.3 hours
250 legs,
611.8 hours online
384 legs,
1,530.5 hours ACARS
38 legs,
82.7 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
August 03 2010 13:09 ET by Lewis Gregory
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The key to a good landing is a stabilized approach. (Hint: You're not going to get a good stabilized approach doing 350 KIAS 15 miles from the airport. Just saying.)
You can get more specific information from the CRJ manuals here or by asking your CRJ staff, but as a rule of thumb, you want the airplane stabilized, on the glideslope (if ILS) or two white/two red on the PAPI (if visual and PAPI equipped), at approach speed, and in landing configuration, no lower than 1000' AGL. At many airlines, an unstabilized approach at 1000' AGL is grounds for an automatic go-around. Also, even if you're shooting a visual approach, if the runway's equipped with an ILS, tune it and use it for guidance.
The "simple" axiom is "power for sink, pitch for speed." It's a little more complex than that, but it's a good place to start. Use your throttle (gently!) to control your glideslope. If you're sinking low, give it a little more juice. If you're high, give it a little less. Use small changes in pitch to control your speed. Yeah, it's kind of backwards from how you'd do it intuitively--you'd think you'd use the throttle for speed and the pitch for sink rate. But try it and you'll see that "power for sink, pitch for speed" is a good foundation to work from. Practice. Take your CRJ out and set up a saved flight about 15 miles from an ILS-equipped runway at 3000 feet and work on your approaches and landings. I know 10 fps makes it tough, but I did it with 10 fps for a couple of years, and if I can do it, anyone can.
As for landings, remember that even a CRJ needs to be flown right down to the runway. These aren't C172s where you just chop the power, flare, and let it stall onto the runway. Begin rolling off the power around 30-40 feet AGL and flare *gently*. Just a few degrees is all it takes. If you've got the approach speed right, you won't float, you'll just arrest the sink rate and settle through the ground cushion right onto the runway. That's why I say that a stabilized approach is the key to a good landing. If you're out of shape right over the ground, going too fast or diving for the runway, it's very hard to salvage a good landing. You run the risk of floating or bouncing.
One other thing I'll urge you. We don't have a lot of rules here about flying "realistically," but please, let me implore you to do it. Yeah, it's fun doing 415 KIAS in a CRJ and banging around at 350 with the flaps out 20 degrees, but that's not how CRJs roll in reality. Read your CRJ manual and fly within the limits there. Obey the flap limits, fly real-world climb and descent profiles, don't keep the throttles bent over the forward stops. It may seem boring, but that level of realism is why most of us are here. The first time you do a flight from takeoff to landing and you realize there's not a single red dot on ACARS? That's a good feeling.
Lewis GregorySenior Captain, MD-11
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DVA4031
Captain, B757-200
Joined on January 20 2007
50 State Club
B757 100 Club
Everett 500 Club
DVA Ten-Year Anniversary
Million Mile Club
Millennium Club
Port Orchard, WA
1,186 legs, 3,343.2 hours
1,177 legs,
3,327.8 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
August 03 2010 14:29 ET by Quinlan Cao
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Excellent advice...
Jordan, concerning fleet a/c, the CRJ is probably one of the easiest to land. Practice, and in time, you'll get it right.
One more thing that Lewis covered. Ease up on the throttles! I noticed that at one point, you clocked 612 kts GS at 8000 ft. I would probably cut that in half if you want a stable approach. Slow is smooth. And by not cooking your engines, you won't have to bust your flaps at 400 KIAS. Finally, I would recommend learning to use autopilot, as others have mentioned. It does work - I've tried it countless times (and it's quite simple, really). You'll find that autopilot/autothrottle will have a significant effect on the red dots.
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DVA9005
First Officer, B767-300
Joined on September 03 2010
"Two wings, an engine and a seat? Lets fly it."
Long Beach, NY USA
16 legs, 98.8 hours
16 legs,
98.8 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
September 09 2010 17:49 ET by Ryan Spellman
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Sheesh! And they said Candians cannot build a fighter jet! Pffft! Just kidding. As others have said, use autopilot. 250 below 10K and 230 or less in the Bravo's. Also, keep the bank to between 25 and 33 as long as you have the speed to manuver and you should be grand. Word of advice having never flown the CRJ in flight sim. If it was designed as an accurate to life model you should expect to approach someplace between the mid 130's and the low 140's or so flying about a 3 degree nose down pitch. A good rule of thumb in the CR2 in an approach config is to pitch to the degree of glideslope and that will give you the desired sink rate etc etc. The CRJ does not have much of a flare. At about 10 feet chop em and bring the nose to the horizon level maybe a degree above and you can almost never go wrong.
Ryan SpellmanFirst Officer, B767-300
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