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Posted onPost created on July 01 2016 19:50 ET by James Hyun

Alright. I've got an issue that really bothers me.

I installed the MAAM DC-3 for FS9 today. I also got installed the Delta Ship 41 livery for it, too, and adjusted my aircraft.cfg accordingly, as well.
Except now any change I make to the aircraft.cfg file is not reflected FS9 anymore, and I have no clue as to why.

There was an issue with some of the details in the aircraft.cfg, specifically the sounds line. The sounds for the Ship 41 variation weren't pulling sounds from the MAAM DC-3 set, so I went back in to see what was up. Sure enough, there was an incorrect entry on that line, so I fixed it, saved it (using Notepad++ in admin mode), and reloaded FS9.

And when that happened, absolutely nothing changed. It's annoying me a lot.

Some images for you guys, too.

Here's the Ship 41 variation info in the aircraft.cfg file itself:
https://gyazo.com/a2b5570ed33fbcb2f0c913157807a922

Here's the aircraft as it's loaded in FS9:
https://gyazo.com/1da7613fb7eba7b58c04383c4fb761aa
***Note that the ATC name is "DEL 341", instead of "DAL41", pointing out an inconsistency between the .cfg and what's in FS9.

Nothing else I change in the .cfg loads, too.
I have tried deleting the whole fltsim.2 section entirely to see if I can get FS9 to at least recognize some as drastic as that.
But nope. DEL 341 is still there, with its wrong sound effects and incorrect callsign.

Can I get some help with this? I'd really like to fly the MAAM DC-3 instead of what we've got in the DVA fleet library. Top-notch realism, and nothing less.
And no, I'm in no rush to fix this. I've still got my DC-6 checkride to have reassigned to me, so I'm just sitting around at the moment.

James Hyun

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Posted onPost created on July 02 2016 11:32 ET by Dirk Depelsemaeker

Maybe that Notepad++ does something...
Try re-editing with vanilla notepad.

Or re-install the DC-3, and before you start fiddling with any file, make a backup.
I think I've had something like that happen as well when trying out some liveries. I copied over my backup and everything was OK after that...

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Posted onPost created on July 03 2016 02:57 ET by Andreas Sippel

Hi James,
please post the complete fltsim-section (all entries) of your aircraft.cfg. Then I can maybe find some mistake in there. The weight and load-sections are not neccessary.

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Posted onPost created on July 03 2016 07:15 ET by Andrew Vane

You need to edit the sound.cfg file in the sound folder I believe. That's where the sounds are placed and the file that directs the sim to look for them.

Andrew Vane (DVA2887)

Posted onPost created on July 03 2016 11:46 ET by Andreas Sippel

Andrew Vane wrote:

You need to edit the sound.cfg file in the sound folder I believe. That's where the sounds are placed and the file that directs the sim to look for them.

This might be the second step but the first is to get the aircraft.cfg in order. There is definetly one or more mistakes in it since the posted picture and the posted fltsim-entry are NOT the same aircraft. The picture belongs to another fltsim-entry. Therefore I asked to post section of the aircraft.cfg. Probably it will be pretty easy to solve the problem.

Andreas Sippel

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Posted onPost created on July 03 2016 22:03 ET by James Hyun

Out of town at the moment. I'll be back by tomorrow.

Dirk Depelsemaeker wrote:

Maybe that Notepad++ does something...
Try re-editing with vanilla notepad.

Or re-install the DC-3, and before you start fiddling with any file, make a backup.
I think I've had something like that happen as well when trying out some liveries. I copied over my backup and everything was OK after that...

I've tried reinstalling the DC-3. Fresh copy, and somehow the faulty Ship 41 variation still loads. This is what really stumped me.

Andreas Sippel wrote:

Hi James,
please post the complete fltsim-section (all entries) of your aircraft.cfg. Then I can maybe find some mistake in there. The weight and load-sections are not neccessary.

I'll do that when I return. Expect a post tomorrow morning.

Andrew Vane wrote:

You need to edit the sound.cfg file in the sound folder I believe. That's where the sounds are placed and the file that directs the sim to look for them.

The "sound=" line had an entry in it, so it was pulling sounds from the wrong place. The sound.cfg file is fine. Checked it myself, and the default AAL variation has fine sounds.

James Hyun

First Officer, DC-8-61

Posted onPost created on July 04 2016 08:49 ET by James Hyun

Alright guys, I'm back. Here's the entire aircraft.cfg.

http://pastebin.com/ZRrQj1Ny

James Hyun

First Officer, DC-8-61

Posted onPost created on July 04 2016 10:01 ET by Andreas Sippel

Hi James,
Thank you. Well, I can´t find an obvious mistake in the fltsim-section and I tried it myself on a different DC3 and it loads just fine. Also any amendment I make is immediately recognized by FS9. So this is not the problem here.
What I think is that the picture you posted above and the aircraft.cfg are NOT belonging to same aircraft. We are talking about two different ones here. Have you ever checked this matter?
Your picture also shows a description "Douglas DC 3 Transport" but there is just NO description-entry in fltsim2-section. Also the ui-variation and your mentioned ATC-name are different.
Therefore it must be a different aircraft with a different aircraft.cfg we are talking about here. What convinces me even more is that you are talking about a default AAL-variation is working fine. There is NO AAL-variation in the posted aircraft.cfg

Andreas

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Posted onPost created on July 04 2016 15:28 ET by Mark Stead

If you're still having a problem, all you need to do is to change your call sign (you're the only one that sees it) ; you click the button "change" after you select the aircraft - under selected aircraft click "change" , select the aircraft you want choosing aircraft manufacturer then aircraft model then variation then click "change" button by ATC name (and then change your tail number to anything you want. Everything else seems fine. You might need to do this every time you load it, but as you are the only one that sees it when you use the default ATC, I wouldn't worry about it very much. There are much worse issues than this that can go wrong with the aircraft.cfg or other files, I've had to fix a couple of them.

Posted onPost created on July 05 2016 13:30 ET by James Hyun

Mark Stead wrote:

If you're still having a problem, all you need to do is to change your call sign (you're the only one that sees it) ; you click the button "change" after you select the aircraft - under selected aircraft click "change" , select the aircraft you want choosing aircraft manufacturer then aircraft model then variation then click "change" button by ATC name (and then change your tail number to anything you want. Everything else seems fine. You might need to do this every time you load it, but as you are the only one that sees it when you use the default ATC, I wouldn't worry about it very much. There are much worse issues than this that can go wrong with the aircraft.cfg or other files, I've had to fix a couple of them.

I know that. The only reason why I pointed out the callsign discrepancy is to prove that one exists just by comparing those two screenshots.
The more serious issue here is the sound mismatch. I configured the aircraft.cfg to fix the sound issue, but FS9 won't realize that a change was made.

So far, the only way around this is to copy the MAAM DC-3 files into a whole new aircraft folder, then configure the copied aircraft.cfg before launching FS9 for the first time after copying the files.
It works, but it wastes space. We don't want to go back to FS2002 (or was it FS2000?) ways now, do we?

Andreas Sippel wrote:

Hi James,
Thank you. Well, I can´t find an obvious mistake in the fltsim-section and I tried it myself on a different DC3 and it loads just fine. Also any amendment I make is immediately recognized by FS9. So this is not the problem here.
What I think is that the picture you posted above and the aircraft.cfg are NOT belonging to same aircraft. We are talking about two different ones here. Have you ever checked this matter?
Your picture also shows a description "Douglas DC 3 Transport" but there is just NO description-entry in fltsim2-section. Also the ui-variation and your mentioned ATC-name are different.
Therefore it must be a different aircraft with a different aircraft.cfg we are talking about here.

That makes sense.
Except when you realize literally no other aircraft.cfg installed would tell FS9 to get a DC-3, and put the Ship 41 livery on it.

James Hyun

First Officer, DC-8-61

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