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DVA2121
Captain, B767-300
Joined on February 05 2005
Everett Century Club
Triple Century Club
DVA Ten-Year Anniversary
Online Triple Century Club
50 State Club
Shreveport, LA
396 legs, 1,147.2 hours
323 legs,
973.4 hours online
286 legs,
864.2 hours ACARS
18 legs,
50.9 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
November 19 2017 18:15 ET by Grant Shelton
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I have a PIREP on hold from yesterday KABQ-KDFW. I used ACARS for the flight and used the pax/fuel load feature that is included in ACARS. Shortly after takeoff, about 2000ft agl, ACARS had my fuel marked in red as insuffiecient. Not having seen this happen before, I panicked a bit and went in FSX to add some fuel. Is this normal for ACARS and I just never noticed before? Can I get the PIREP approved seeing as how I used the ACARS fuel load utility, and I even added more in reserves?
Grant SheltonCaptain, B767-300
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DVA11591
Senior Captain, B757-200
OLP
Joined on July 02 2013
50 State Club
Globetrotter
Everett Millennium Club
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Online Twenty Century
US Coastal Club
Events Double Century Club
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Tin Dispatcher
DVA Ten-Year Anniversary
"Left foot dead foot, verified! Feather Left!"
Daytona Beach, FL
3,278 legs, 11,747.1 hours
2,886 legs,
10,265.0 hours online
3,149 legs,
11,186.4 hours ACARS
326 legs,
874.1 hours event
274 legs dispatched, 316.5
hours
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Posted onPost created on
November 19 2017 20:56 ET by Soonho Lee
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| Please contact whomever that held your flight directly.
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DVA2121
Captain, B767-300
Joined on February 05 2005
Everett Century Club
Triple Century Club
DVA Ten-Year Anniversary
Online Triple Century Club
50 State Club
Shreveport, LA
396 legs, 1,147.2 hours
323 legs,
973.4 hours online
286 legs,
864.2 hours ACARS
18 legs,
50.9 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
November 19 2017 22:13 ET by Grant Shelton
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Been trying find contact info to no avail. I know who it is but cant locate an email addy
Grant SheltonCaptain, B767-300
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DVA2887
Senior Captain, A320
OLP, 737-ATP, VFRADV
Joined on January 30 2006
50 State Club
Globetrotter
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Online Eight Century
Charlotte, NC
1,287 legs, 1,796.9 hours
841 legs,
1,048.5 hours online
1,269 legs,
1,774.9 hours ACARS
31 legs,
49.6 hours event
3 legs dispatched, 2.5
hours
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Posted onPost created on
November 19 2017 22:19 ET by Andrew Vane
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Click on the our staff link at the left. It has all staff emails.
If this happens in the future, quit out and restart the flight from the gate. we don't allow aerial refueling as we're not a military VA.
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DVA2121
Captain, B767-300
Joined on February 05 2005
Everett Century Club
Triple Century Club
DVA Ten-Year Anniversary
Online Triple Century Club
50 State Club
Shreveport, LA
396 legs, 1,147.2 hours
323 legs,
973.4 hours online
286 legs,
864.2 hours ACARS
18 legs,
50.9 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
November 19 2017 22:31 ET by Grant Shelton
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Disregard. I found the email. Thanks.
Still looking for clarification regarding ACARS fuel loading profiles. Is it standard for this to happen from the flight progress tab during t/o and or departure? If so, I'll just ignore going forward
thanks for the info,
GS
Grant SheltonCaptain, B767-300
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DVA043
Senior Captain, MD-11
OLP
Joined on June 10 2001
Event Half Century Club
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Four Million Mile Club
"Col. Panic"
Marietta, GA
2,347 legs, 9,466.0 hours
240 legs,
553.9 hours online
2,005 legs,
8,259.1 hours ACARS
75 legs,
196.3 hours event
2,383 legs, 9,600.9 hours total
91 legs dispatched, 66.4
hours
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Posted onPost created on
November 19 2017 23:18 ET by Luke Kolin
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Grant Shelton wrote:
Still looking for clarification regarding ACARS fuel loading profiles. Is it standard for this to happen from the flight progress tab during t/o and or departure? If so, I'll just ignore going forward
ACARS Flight progress will extrapolate fuel exhaustion time based on current fuel burn. Given that this can be 5-10x as much during takeoff and climbout I would not pay too much attention to it until you are at cruise altitude.
To give you an idea, a 767 can do around 46k lbs/hour on takeoff roll, then around 10k lbs/hr at cruise.
Cheers!
Luke KolinSenior Captain, MD-11
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DVA5643
Senior Captain, DC-6
Joined on February 08 2008
Piston Prop Professional
50 State Club
US Coastal Club
Globetrotter
US Mountaineer Club
Flying Colonel
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary
Long Beach 500 Club
"I'd rather be lucky than good"
Hampton, GA USA
1,928 legs, 2,899.4 hours
5 legs,
3.8 hours online
1,921 legs,
2,889.4 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
November 22 2017 08:21 ET by Jim Daigneau
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Adding to Luke's post, you wil routinely see insufficient fuel after takeoff and during the climb when you have 1) planned a flight landing with minimum reserves or 2) planned a flight near the maximum range of the airplane. In fact, the fuel prediction may stay red for a while at cruise until you burn off fuel and decrease GWT. This is true for props, turbo props and jets. So, the moral of the story is plan your flights careful and trust your figures.
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DVA2121
Captain, B767-300
Joined on February 05 2005
Everett Century Club
Triple Century Club
DVA Ten-Year Anniversary
Online Triple Century Club
50 State Club
Shreveport, LA
396 legs, 1,147.2 hours
323 legs,
973.4 hours online
286 legs,
864.2 hours ACARS
18 legs,
50.9 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
November 22 2017 13:13 ET by Grant Shelton
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I figured that might be what was happening but was just wanting to double check. Got it! Thanks for the info everyone
GS
Grant SheltonCaptain, B767-300
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