Delta Virtual Airlines Water Cooler - Upcoming Flights Added: KLGA to KEYW

Delta Virtual Airlines Water Cooler \| Airline Operations \| Upcoming Flights Added: KLGA to KEYW
DVA2887 Senior Captain, A320 OLP, 737-ATP, VFRADV Joined on January 30 2006 50 State Club Globetrotter Tri-Jet Triumph US Coastal Club Millennium Club DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary US Mountaineer Club Toulouse 250 Club Online Eight Century Charlotte, NC 1,287 legs, 1,796.9 hours 841 legs, 1,048.5 hours online 1,269 legs, 1,774.9 hours ACARS 31 legs, 49.6 hours event 3 legs dispatched, 2.5 hours	Posted onPost created on November 20 2018 12:16 ET by Andrew Vane
	Soonho spotted these in a magazine. Coming soon for the real world Delta but already here for your holiday pleasure! DVH4877 LEG 1 KLGA 0900 KEYW 1243 E170 DVH4877 LEG 2 KEYW 1313 KLGA 1624 E170 Enjoy! DVA Operations
DVA10698 Chief Pilot, B717-200 OLP, 737-ATP DISPATCHER Joined on April 25 2012 50 State Club Globetrotter US Mountaineer Club US Coastal Club DVA Ten-Year Anniversary Everett Millennium Club Events Century Club Flying Colonel Online Fifteen Century "Life is simple, eat, sleep, fly, sim....." Miami, FL 1,699 legs, 2,328.7 hours 1,638 legs, 2,223.7 hours online 1,699 legs, 2,328.7 hours ACARS 104 legs, 165.6 hours event 75 legs dispatched, 191.3 hours	Posted onPost created on November 20 2018 13:16 ET by Jay Marin
	Love it! Will it on the 717 once I return from LAX.
DVA9080 Senior Captain, DC-6 OLP E-MAIL Joined on September 30 2010 B757 100 Club Everett 250 Club DVA Ten-Year Anniversary Carolina Club Online Seven Century Club Eight Century Club Events Century Club Elizabethtown, KY 879 legs, 2,432.9 hours 792 legs, 2,169.4 hours online 834 legs, 2,292.8 hours ACARS 107 legs, 261.1 hours event 70 legs dispatched, 109.8 hours	Posted onPost created on November 20 2018 16:42 ET by Nathan Cox
	Jay Marin wrote: Love it! Will it on the 717 once I return from LAX. :) Careful, Jay. The KEYW's runway is too short for the 717. Runway 9/27 is 4,800 ft. The 717 requires 4,650 ft for landing and 5,500 ft for takeoff, so I hope you didn't book a round trip ticket. Also, I doubt operations appreciates us stranding aircraft haha. Now that I think about it, our fleet profiles page indicates that the E170 isn't acceptable for the flight either due to takeoff performance. Our E170 profile states that 5,299 ft is required for takeoff. Andrew, I know that DL is actually operating this flight with the E170, but our fleet profiles page doesn't take into account weight-limited flights like this one. So what does this mean for us at DVA since "insufficient runway length for takeoff" is grounds for PIREP rejection, and the listed aircraft for that flight in our schedule isn't capable of meeting DVA's determination of those performance requirements? Sources: https://www.deltava.org/airportinfo.do?id=EYW https://www.deltava.org/aircraft.do?id=B717-200&op= https://www.deltava.org/aircraft.do?id=ERJ-170&op= https://airwaysmag.com/airlines/delta-new-nonstop-flight-from-laguardia-to-key-west/
DVA2887 Senior Captain, A320 OLP, 737-ATP, VFRADV Joined on January 30 2006 50 State Club Globetrotter Tri-Jet Triumph US Coastal Club Millennium Club DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary US Mountaineer Club Toulouse 250 Club Online Eight Century Charlotte, NC 1,287 legs, 1,796.9 hours 841 legs, 1,048.5 hours online 1,269 legs, 1,774.9 hours ACARS 31 legs, 49.6 hours event 3 legs dispatched, 2.5 hours	Posted onPost created on November 20 2018 18:21 ET by Andrew Vane
	Good info Nathan. You have done your homework. I will make a change to the E170 profile.
DVA9080 Senior Captain, DC-6 OLP E-MAIL Joined on September 30 2010 B757 100 Club Everett 250 Club DVA Ten-Year Anniversary Carolina Club Online Seven Century Club Eight Century Club Events Century Club Elizabethtown, KY 879 legs, 2,432.9 hours 792 legs, 2,169.4 hours online 834 legs, 2,292.8 hours ACARS 107 legs, 261.1 hours event 70 legs dispatched, 109.8 hours	Posted onPost created on November 20 2018 19:05 ET by Nathan Cox
	Thanks, Andrew! I've looked into the E170 performance some more. This figure is from the E170 Airport Planning Manual published by Embraer. On an ISA+15 day, takeoff weight is limited to about 72,500 lbs at EYW. Some quick fuel calcs for an LGA-EYW route: Distance: 1061 NM (great circle) Cruise TAS: 460 knots Air time: 2.28 hours Cruise fuel flow (from DVA aircraft profile): 2050 lbs/hr per engine Thus, fuel required for the flight with BOS as the alternate comes to: Trip: 9,368 lbs Alternate: 2,225 lbs Reserve: 3,075 lbs Minimum takeoff fuel: 14,698 lbs Now, to examine the weight limitations to find the maximum payload weight. Takeoff Weight Limitation: 72,500 lbs Basic Operating Weight: 45,636 lbs (does not include crew) Crew weight (inc. bags): 900 lbs (two flight crew members and two flight attendants) Minimum takeoff fuel: 14,698 lbs Subtracting the basic operating weight and the minimum takeoff fuel from our takeoff weight gives us the maximum payload weight of 11,266 lbs. FAA AC 120-27E establishes the average passenger weights that airlines are to use for weight and balance calculation. This flight is a summer seasonal flight, so we'll use the summer standard average passenger weight of 190 lbs. If there are no checked bags onboard, the maximum number of passengers able to be carried on the flight is only 59. This illustrates why Delta already imposes a limit of one checked bag per passenger on flights to and from EYW (note that is a hard limit - you cannot pay a fee to check more than one bag). Checked bags will only further reduce the maximum allowable passenger load. References: https://www.embraercommercialaviation.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/APM_E170.pdf https://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/media/Advisory_Circular/AC120-27E.pdf
DVA2887 Senior Captain, A320 OLP, 737-ATP, VFRADV Joined on January 30 2006 50 State Club Globetrotter Tri-Jet Triumph US Coastal Club Millennium Club DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary US Mountaineer Club Toulouse 250 Club Online Eight Century Charlotte, NC 1,287 legs, 1,796.9 hours 841 legs, 1,048.5 hours online 1,269 legs, 1,774.9 hours ACARS 31 legs, 49.6 hours event 3 legs dispatched, 2.5 hours	Posted onPost created on November 21 2018 09:41 ET by Andrew Vane
	That great graph shows why its difficult to attach a single number to runway length requirements. I did shrink the requirement in our aircraft data to be less than the KEYW runways.
DVA5643 Senior Captain, DC-6 Joined on February 08 2008 Piston Prop Professional 50 State Club US Coastal Club Globetrotter US Mountaineer Club Flying Colonel DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary Long Beach 500 Club "I'd rather be lucky than good" Hampton, GA USA 1,928 legs, 2,899.4 hours 5 legs, 3.8 hours online 1,921 legs, 2,889.4 hours ACARS	Posted onPost created on November 26 2018 13:55 ET by Jim Daigneau
	Great post, Nathan! Really demonstrates the problem of operating out of a marginal field. It's still hard to believe that Eastern would put 727-100s in there. When I was stationed at the NAS in the late 80s, Piedmont would fly F28s in there, but they were load limited and the runway had to be dry. So the schedule, like Delta's, was in and out before the afternoon showers. Delta marketing reportedly wanted to put a 737-700 in there at night. Fortunately, FLTOPS said "NO WAY!".
DVA11591 Senior Captain, B757-200 OLP Joined on July 02 2013 50 State Club Globetrotter Everett Millennium Club DVA Fleet Master Online Twenty Century US Coastal Club Events Double Century Club Five Million Mile Club US Mountaineer Club B757 100 Club Tri-Millennium Club Tin Dispatcher DVA Ten-Year Anniversary "Left foot dead foot, verified! Feather Left!" Daytona Beach, FL 3,278 legs, 11,747.1 hours 2,886 legs, 10,265.0 hours online 3,149 legs, 11,186.4 hours ACARS 326 legs, 874.1 hours event 274 legs dispatched, 316.5 hours	Posted onPost created on November 28 2018 15:40 ET by Soonho Lee
	Better get your landing skills very sharp! There isn't much margin for error when landing at KEYW.... Got F5s stationed just North East of the airport and there are water everywhere!
DVA5643 Senior Captain, DC-6 Joined on February 08 2008 Piston Prop Professional 50 State Club US Coastal Club Globetrotter US Mountaineer Club Flying Colonel DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary Long Beach 500 Club "I'd rather be lucky than good" Hampton, GA USA 1,928 legs, 2,899.4 hours 5 legs, 3.8 hours online 1,921 legs, 2,889.4 hours ACARS	Posted onPost created on November 28 2018 18:19 ET by Jim Daigneau
	But the F-5s don't carry real bullets. (Although the Hornets do.) Careful out there!
DVA11591 Senior Captain, B757-200 OLP Joined on July 02 2013 50 State Club Globetrotter Everett Millennium Club DVA Fleet Master Online Twenty Century US Coastal Club Events Double Century Club Five Million Mile Club US Mountaineer Club B757 100 Club Tri-Millennium Club Tin Dispatcher DVA Ten-Year Anniversary "Left foot dead foot, verified! Feather Left!" Daytona Beach, FL 3,278 legs, 11,747.1 hours 2,886 legs, 10,265.0 hours online 3,149 legs, 11,186.4 hours ACARS 326 legs, 874.1 hours event 274 legs dispatched, 316.5 hours	Posted onPost created on November 28 2018 19:04 ET by Soonho Lee
	Keep forgetting the Key West NAS has the Hornets along with the P3, P8 and E2s. Been some time since Dan W and I flew down there haha

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