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Delta Virtual Airlines Water Cooler | PC Support | MSFS2020 - Hardware - What if 3080?

DVA8851
Captain, B737-800

Joined on July 23 2010
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary

Porto, Portugal

40 legs, 70.4 hours
19 legs, 34.9 hours online
40 legs, 70.4 hours ACARS

Posted onPost created on February 02 2021 08:45 ET by Luis Leal

Hello My friends, I hope all of you are ok!

I am in a process of changing my desktop PC, and the driver will be the best hardware config to fly with MSFS 2020.

What are your thoughts about this? What is the best HW config. Are the 3080 or 3090 graphic cards really necessary?

Thanks

Best Regardas and Keep Safe!

Luis Leal

Captain, B737-800

DVA043
Senior Captain, MD-11
OLP

Joined on June 10 2001
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"Col. Panic"
Marietta, GA

2,347 legs, 9,466.0 hours
240 legs, 553.9 hours online
2,005 legs, 8,259.1 hours ACARS
75 legs, 196.3 hours event
2,383 legs, 9,600.9 hours total
91 legs dispatched, 66.4 hours

Posted onPost created on February 02 2021 09:50 ET by Luke Kolin

The best answer to that question is to try it with what you have now, and see if it's acceptable. It runs OK on my 1070, probably better than P3D. What is your current video card, and screen resolution?

Cheers!

Luke Kolin

Senior Captain, MD-11

DVA10286
Captain, B777-200

Joined on November 05 2011
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"ASEL - Instrument Rated"
San Diego, CA

1,103 legs, 5,003.2 hours
1,100 legs, 5,000.2 hours ACARS

Posted onPost created on February 02 2021 11:17 ET by Thomas Weber

I have it running just shy of 30 fps on an RX 5700 XT with minimal issues. I fly with live weather but AI Traffic turned off.

Thomas Weber (DVA10286)

DVA13420
Assistant Chief Pilot, B737-800

Joined on February 25 2018
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Springfield, MO

1,093 legs, 1,902.6 hours
1,092 legs, 1,900.5 hours ACARS

Posted onPost created on February 03 2021 23:07 ET by Adam Magiera

I'm sure a 3080-90 would be prime for running it, but it may be a moot point currently as 30XX series GPU's are virtually extinct everywhere due to a global supply shortage coupled with bots sucking up any available for cryptocurrency mining

Adam Magiera

Assistant Chief Pilot, B737-800

DVA8851
Captain, B737-800

Joined on July 23 2010
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary

Porto, Portugal

40 legs, 70.4 hours
19 legs, 34.9 hours online
40 legs, 70.4 hours ACARS

Posted onPost created on February 14 2021 19:23 ET by Luis Leal

Well, My PC pc has 11 years old. It is top class fot those years, but know It cannot handle MSFS. It has an Intel I7 (10 years old...), overclocked to 2.65Hz, a GForce GTX 260 Gcard, 6Gb RAM... Yeap...Oldy!!!

I know that those 3080 are in stress worldwide, and it mekes me go "grrrr"... It is just Graphic cards!!! That bitcoin mining is really making a mess of it. What about the alternatives?

Luis Leal

Captain, B737-800

Posted onPost created on February 15 2021 10:40 ET by Luke Kolin

Given the age of that mainboard, you're looking at a complete rebuild. If it takes 6GB of RAM it's likely a pre-Sandy Bridge i7 which means that it predates the biggest jump in computing power (my middle daughter still has the i5-2500K I gave her a few years back. It's over 11 years old and runs all her games just fine - amazing!)

Your best bet is to start planning for a complete overhaul; modern mobo, 16GB of RAM (at least!), SSDs (M2 for the size factor, NVMe is better) and a modern video card with at least 10GB of VRAM. It's not going to be cheap, and worse it's not going to be fast but you got a good run out of your existing hardware.

Cheers!

Luke Kolin

Senior Captain, MD-11

DVA4169
Captain, A350-900

Joined on March 10 2007
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"What's the color of the boathouse in Hereford?"
Cincinnati, OH

1,105 legs, 3,704.9 hours
590 legs, 2,120.9 hours online
1,103 legs, 3,695.2 hours ACARS
66 legs, 133.6 hours event

Posted onPost created on February 15 2021 10:58 ET by Khary Williams

Here's my setup I JUST got

Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-10700KF CPU @ 3.80GHz (16 CPUs), ~3.8GHz
Memory: 32768MB RAM
Card name: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type: GeForce RTX 3080
Current Mode: 3440 x 1440 (32 bit) (180Hz)

Running on a Predator x35 Ultrawide Monitor I get 30-35fps in the cockpit of the FlybyWire A320 and about 45-50fps from behind the plane. All settings on Ultra. There are some things I could probably turn down to High to increase fps a little more but it still runs smooth. It's an upgrade from the 2070 Super I had before, but not by as much as I thought it would be.

So in other words..if you can find a 2070 or 2080, grab it. But I do remember I was CPU bottlenecked before. Now the CPU runs at about 25-40% during flights instead of almost constantly at 100 with the previous machine I was on.

Khary Williams

Captain, A350-900

DVA8851
Captain, B737-800

Joined on July 23 2010
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary

Porto, Portugal

40 legs, 70.4 hours
19 legs, 34.9 hours online
40 legs, 70.4 hours ACARS

Posted onPost created on February 24 2021 08:37 ET by Luis Leal

Hi,

Thanks for your feedback. I would really wanted a 3080, but It is going to be very very difficult to get one, due to the world shortage... I think I´ll grab that 2070/2080 tip! And maybe a i9.

I just have to investigate those Portugal prices and make a decision to start using MSFS!!

Best Regards!
Luis

Luis Leal

Captain, B737-800

DVA9545
Senior Captain, B777-200
OLP, 737-ATP

Joined on March 03 2011
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"YUPIIIII"
Goiás Brazil

2,578 legs, 5,183.9 hours
2,405 legs, 4,903.2 hours online
2,570 legs, 5,154.3 hours ACARS
271 legs, 683.8 hours event

Posted onPost created on February 25 2021 12:53 ET by Thiago Braga

I so want to put my hands on the RTX 3080. But non in stock with the right value.

Thiago Braga (DVA9545)

Posted onPost created on February 25 2021 17:56 ET by Khary Williams

I basically just bought a new machine with a 3080 already in it just so I can have it. Paid less than what I would have paid to get the 3080 by itself! I gave the excuse that my stepson was moving out so I gave him the machine with the 2070 in it!

Khary Williams

Captain, A350-900

DVA8920
Senior Captain, B737-800
OLP
DISPATCHER
E-MAIL

Joined on August 12 2010
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"Any landing you can walk away from..."
Smyrna, GA

2,135 legs, 5,362.8 hours
1,073 legs, 2,508.7 hours online
2,044 legs, 5,156.3 hours ACARS
89 legs, 220.5 hours event
0 legs dispatched, 3.4 hours

Posted onPost created on February 28 2021 12:24 ET by Daniel Wilbanks

Thiago Braga wrote:

I so want to put my hands on the RTX 3080. But non in stock with the right value.

I haven’t been keeping up with the 3080 issue simply for the fact that I’m not in a position to buy one just yet but I did face a very similar supply issue with the PS5 back in November. I was able to snag one after a little over a month with moderate effort thanks to a few Discord’s and Twitter accounts that notified me when they were in stock. I recall seeing similar options for the GPU’s.

Daniel Wilbanks (DVA8920)

Posted onPost created on March 02 2021 12:41 ET by Thiago Braga

Please shoot the links.
Thanks!

Thiago Braga (DVA9545)

DVA4614
Captain, CRJ-200

Joined on February 25 2007
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Madison Heights, MI USA

150 legs, 302.0 hours
3 legs, 4.2 hours online
135 legs, 276.1 hours ACARS

Posted onPost created on March 17 2021 21:29 ET by Peter Tambornini

I'm running MSFS 2020 on a I7 9700k,32 gig ram,gtx 1070,1TB nvme drive. Very happy on high with a few ultra settings in 1080P beautiful sim!

Peter Tambornini

Captain, CRJ-200

DVA7846
Senior Captain, B777-200
OLP

Joined on September 25 2009
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"It is what it is!"
Wake Forest, NC

569 legs, 1,264.7 hours
399 legs, 805.1 hours online
561 legs, 1,251.4 hours ACARS
105 legs, 243.5 hours event
87 legs dispatched, 175.9 hours

Posted onPost created on March 18 2021 16:49 ET by Kevin Hornaday

Check into NZXT BLD. I got mine on Black Friday and with the discount, paid MSRP for the 3080. I'm getting a solid 30 FPS, but more importantly, smooth graphics with only the occasional lag for loading new areas. I'm very happy, but YMMV.

DVA6198
Captain, B737-800

Joined on July 23 2008
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Virginia Beach, VA

470 legs, 534.2 hours
400 legs, 444.2 hours online
469 legs, 533.1 hours ACARS
4 legs, 7.6 hours event

Posted onPost created on March 23 2021 16:52 ET by Jeremy Jeffreys

I got mine from Cyber Power PC back in October, I custom built mine from the ground up. It did take about 45 days to get it, but it was a great build after. Use the Discount code CPFB5 and you get 5% off.

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ID-INFO 886357 HYX79Z 1 0.00 0.00
MODEL1 C SERIES 1 0.00 0.00
SW-153-137 INTEL AVENGERS GAMING BUNDLE 1 0.00 0.00
SW-152-318 NVIDIA WATCH DOGS LEGION 1 0.00 0.00
SW-152-317 NVIDIA 1 YEAR GEFORCE NOW 1 0.00 0.00
KB-161-101 CYBERPOWERPC MULTIMEDIA/INTERNET USB KEYBOARD 1 0.00 0.00
MO-131-301 CYBERPOWERPC ELITE M1 131 7 COLOR GAMING MOUSE 1 0.00 0.00
EC-COUPON-201 QUICK START GUIDE (WHITE) 1 0.00 0.00
BOX1 SYSTEM BOX AND FOAM 1 0.00 0.00
CU-217-271 OEM INTEL CORE PROCESSOR I9-10850K 10/20 3.60GHZ 20MB 1 2,025.00 2,025.00
CACHE LGA1200 (COMET LAKE-S) 125W
HD-204-509 500GB WD BLUE SN550 GEN3 PCIE NVME M.2 SSD 1 0.00 0.00
HD-204-610 1TB WD BLUE SN550 SERIES PCIE NVME M.2 SSD 1 0.00 0.00
HD-403-210 2TB SEAGATE HDD 3.5" SATAIII 7200RPM 6.0 GB/s 256MB C 1 46.00 46.00
ACHE
RM-605-253 CORSAIR 8GB DDR4-3200 VENGEANCE RGB PRO 2 22.50 45.00
FA-WATER-138 THERMALTAKE FLOE RIING RGB 280MM PREMIUM EDITION LIQU 1 130.00 130.00
ID COOLING KIT W/ COPPER COLD PLATE
LABEL-101 CYBERPOWERPC SYSTEM SERIAL NUMBER 1 0.00 0.00
MB-480-103 ASUS TUF GAMING Z490-PLUS WIFI 6 ATX ARGB 1GBE LAN 2 1 43.00 43.00
PCIE X16 3 PCIE X1 2X M.2 SATA/PCIE LGA 1200
PS-121-146 CORSAIR RM850X 80PLUS GOLD 850W FULLY MODULAR POWER S 1 67.00 67.00
UPPLY
VC-270-214 EVGA GEFORCE RTX 3080 FTW3 ULTRA GAMING 10GB GDDR6X I 1 112.00 112.00
CX3 VIDEO CARD
SERVICE-SHIPPING SHIPPING WARRANTY SERVICE PLAN 1 19.00 19.00
SW-190-D10ADV WINDOWS 10 HOME ADVANCED DIGITAL LICENSE 1 0.00 0.00
MISC ONBOARD 7.1 SOUND 1 0.00 0.00
ULTRA-PACKAGING ULTRA ENHANCED PACKAGING SOLUTION 1 0.00 0.00
DISC CPFB5 (5% Off Systems Over $1,299) 1 -125.75 -125.75
CS-193-101 BLACK LIAN LI O11 DYNAMIC ATX MID TOWER GAMING CASETE 1 28.00 28.00
MPERED GLASS SIDE & FRONT
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Subtotal 2,389.25
Shipping 75.00
Shipping Discount -75.00
E-WASTE Fee 0.00
Tax 6% 143.36
Total 2,532.61

Jeremy Jeffreys (DVA6198)

DVA11874
Senior Captain, B727-200

Joined on December 14 2013
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Santee, CA

1,565 legs, 1,982.3 hours
1,564 legs, 1,981.3 hours ACARS

Posted onPost created on May 16 2021 17:26 ET by Rob Cummings

Have you seen the prices of Graphics cards lately? My card bought on New Egg Last August..
MSI GeForce RTX 2070 DirectX 12 RTX 2070 TRI FROZR 8GB 256-Bit GDDR6 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card. The price paid Aug 2020 $ 409. The same card today $ 2200
Once the Crypto Minning slows down. The Market will be flooded with very cheap high-end Cards

Rob Cummings (DVA11874)

Posted onPost created on May 17 2021 10:31 ET by Thiago Braga

Rob Cummings wrote:

Have you seen the prices of Graphics cards lately? My card bought on New Egg Last August..
MSI GeForce RTX 2070 DirectX 12 RTX 2070 TRI FROZR 8GB 256-Bit GDDR6 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card. The price paid Aug 2020 $ 409. The same card today $ 2200
Once the Crypto Minning slows down. The Market will be flooded with very cheap high-end Cards

We are so hopeful so that to happen.

Thiago Braga (DVA9545)

DVA8851
Captain, B737-800

Joined on July 23 2010
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary

Porto, Portugal

40 legs, 70.4 hours
19 legs, 34.9 hours online
40 legs, 70.4 hours ACARS

Posted onPost created on May 20 2021 20:50 ET by Luis Leal

I have seen so many videos about this subject. It is just incredible!! Some say that a part of the problem can be with thw GPU industry, that are not doing everything they can to prevent the massive buying by criptominers. I didn't manage to buy a new PC yet... :(((
Crossing my fingers to that GPU market release...

Luis Leal

Captain, B737-800

Posted onPost created on May 28 2021 00:12 ET by Adam Magiera

I will say, that I managed to snag a 3090 awhile back and FS2020 is definitely CPU bottle-necked still in most cases. I have an 8700K @ 4.8GHz and a lot of the time the 3090 is at 40-50% utilization and when I go in dev mode it shows main thread as the limiting reagent. So it is safe to say you do not need bleeding edge GPU for FS2020 but a high end, high clock speed CPU will be useful.

Adam Magiera

Assistant Chief Pilot, B737-800

DVA8851
Captain, B737-800

Joined on July 23 2010
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary

Porto, Portugal

40 legs, 70.4 hours
19 legs, 34.9 hours online
40 legs, 70.4 hours ACARS

Posted onPost created on June 02 2021 08:30 ET by Luis Leal

Hello Adam,

Thanks for you r feedback. So it is true what a lot of people are saying, that powered CPU is mandatory to a good MFS2020 experience... I stiil trying to catch a good PC config at the stores... It is not easy nowadays (still not... :(...)

Luis Leal

Captain, B737-800

Posted onPost created on June 05 2021 00:04 ET by Adam Magiera

Luis Leal wrote:

Hello Adam,

Thanks for you r feedback. So it is true what a lot of people are saying, that powered CPU is mandatory to a good MFS2020 experience... I stiil trying to catch a good PC config at the stores... It is not easy nowadays (still not... :(...)

Yeah these are rough times to be in the market for computer hardware for sure.

I did a little more experimenting and its definitely CPU limited still. While it makes use of multiple cores much better than FSX and P3d the limiting factor is that it still relies heavily on one core for the main process. The 3090 varies between 30-60% load depending on the location and flight conditions. My overall CPU usage hangs out around 40% total most of the time. But, when you look at the load on each of the 6 individual cores one will almost always be sitting at 100% and this is the core with the main process, the others will only be partially utilized. People would really get a lot more bang for their buck if the main thread activity was spread between 2 or 3 cores. So, unfortunately, its still very much dependent on single core, high clockspeed performance.

Adam Magiera

Assistant Chief Pilot, B737-800

DVA8851
Captain, B737-800

Joined on July 23 2010
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary

Porto, Portugal

40 legs, 70.4 hours
19 legs, 34.9 hours online
40 legs, 70.4 hours ACARS

Posted onPost created on June 16 2021 19:38 ET by Luis Leal

So, do you think that i7 or i9 are mandatory? Do the Ryzen 7 or 9 families manage to have power to this flight sim?

Luis Leal

Captain, B737-800

Posted onPost created on June 16 2021 21:42 ET by Adam Magiera

Luis Leal wrote:

So, do you think that i7 or i9 are mandatory? Do the Ryzen 7 or 9 families manage to have power to this flight sim?

I couldn't speculate as to the Ryzen performance as I have never used an AMD processor in the last 25+ years so I really have no point of reference. In the current state, I am not sure the difference between i7 and i9 would be significant as one core still is the limiting factor. One could argue that clockspeed is more important in this case. Theoretically, if you took an i7 and i9 of the same generation and the i7 was overclocked to 5.0 and the i9 was stock at 3.8-4.0, the i7 might win just on the virtue of per core clockspeed. On the other hand, i9 would crush the i7 if the main FS2020 process was distributed evenly across the cores which thus far it is not.

Adam Magiera

Assistant Chief Pilot, B737-800

DVA8851
Captain, B737-800

Joined on July 23 2010
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary

Porto, Portugal

40 legs, 70.4 hours
19 legs, 34.9 hours online
40 legs, 70.4 hours ACARS

Posted onPost created on June 20 2021 13:50 ET by Luis Leal

Welll... It seems that those issues that we, flight simmers, experience for several versions, still make our heads hurt... The processor dependency...

Luis Leal

Captain, B737-800

Posted onPost created on June 20 2021 17:44 ET by Thomas Weber

As I mentioned previously, I've had no problems running FS2020 with a Ryzen 7 3700X CPU and RX 5700XT GPU. Currently flying the Aerosoft CRJ at 30+ fps on an ultra-wide (3440 x 1440) monitor. I don't use AI or RW traffic (which I've heard can hit frames).

Thomas Weber (DVA10286)

DVA8851
Captain, B737-800

Joined on July 23 2010
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary

Porto, Portugal

40 legs, 70.4 hours
19 legs, 34.9 hours online
40 legs, 70.4 hours ACARS

Posted onPost created on July 17 2021 22:15 ET by Luis Leal

Hello My Friends, how are you all? I hope everything it is ok with you and your families!

Well, I managed to get an OMEN PC wit an RTX 3080, and I am installing all my flight treasures to try tho XXIst centrury Flight Sim software!!! :))

Luis Leal

Captain, B737-800

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