Delta Virtual Airlines Water Cooler - Error in Flightschedule (KLM)

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Posted onPost created on January 15 2022 03:26 ET by Christian Franke

Hi,

Just saw the current KJFK Flights for KLM depart at Berlin (EDDB). As it is a Dutch Airline with its HUB in Amsterdam (EHAM), this might be an issue.

Thanks for looking into it.
Chris

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Posted onPost created on January 15 2022 13:04 ET by Joe Burner

Christian,

I’ll pull the schedule but I believe this shouldn’t be an issue as airlines fly from all over the place even to the US. wink

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Posted onPost created on January 15 2022 13:06 ET by Luke Kolin

Joe Burner wrote:

I’ll pull the schedule but I believe this shouldn’t be an issue as airlines fly from all over the place even to the US. ;)

Yes, but where they are registered is important. I don't know what the regulations are around fifth freedom rights in the EU.

Cheers!

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Posted onPost created on January 15 2022 15:25 ET by Christian Franke

I‘ve not heard of any non-German and non-American airline connecting Germany with the US on a regular basis. Thus, I guess the fifth freedom doesn’t apply to this scenario.

Thank you for taking care of it.
So long…
Chris

EDIT: Just found out, SIA flies WSSS-EDDF-KJFK and return. smile

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Posted onPost created on January 16 2022 06:54 ET by Peter Klijnstra

Well one thing is for sure, KLM never flies from Amsterdam to EDDB to KJFK.

KLM is flying daily 5 times from EHAM to EDDB, also not in the schedules today. Twice a day from EHAM to KJFK, KL641 and KL643 (KL641 every day, KL643 3 times a week)

I never understood how our RW schedules work but it never seems correct. Maybe it's time for a summer / winter schedule that changes twice a year?

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Posted onPost created on March 14 2022 01:46 ET by Quincy Brown

Last week I was looking on the KLM schedule and i was planning on doing EHAM to TNCB. I only see TNCB to EHAM on the schedule this week. Also i saw there was a flight from TNCB to TNCA and TNCA to TNCB and that has disappearted too. Anyway to fix this. Thanks in advance

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Posted onPost created on March 14 2022 08:54 ET by Chris Frasure

Quincy Brown wrote:

Last week I was looking on the KLM schedule and i was planning on doing EHAM to TNCB. I only see TNCB to EHAM on the schedule this week. Also i saw there was a flight from TNCB to TNCA and TNCA to TNCB and that has disappearted too. Anyway to fix this. Thanks in advance

The schedule is dynamic and will change day to day. Best thing for you to do is to save a flight as a draft when you see it and then you can fly it at your leisure.
CF

Posted onPost created on March 14 2022 11:10 ET by Quincy Brown

I wish I would have saved it but why does the schedule just show TNCB to EHAM everyday but there is not a flight from EHAM or anywhere to TNCB. Im not sure how the schedules are made but this is not possible.

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Posted onPost created on April 05 2022 02:52 ET by Kyle Catlin

Quincy Brown wrote:

I wish I would have saved it but why does the schedule just show TNCB to EHAM everyday but there is not a flight from EHAM or anywhere to TNCB. Im not sure how the schedules are made but this is not possible.

https://www.deltava.org/airportinfo.do?id=BON

Departures: TUESDAY, THURSDAY, FRIDAY, SATURDAY, SUNDAY

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Posted onPost created on April 15 2022 16:53 ET by Marc Ter Heide

Just tried to look up possible flights to TNCB, as https://www.deltava.org/airportinfo.do?id=BON mentions arrivals on every day of the week. I can't find any, however: I can't enter TNCB/BON as a destination in the flight schedule search on the website and the PFPX file only has a departure out of TNCB (to EHAM) and no arrivals. Just to be sure I also tried to look it up using the flight number (of the departure), but KL 767 only resulted in EHAM-TNCA and TNCB-EHAM.

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Posted onPost created on April 15 2022 18:22 ET by Joe Burner

Marc Ter Heide wrote:

Just tried to look up possible flights to TNCB, as https://www.deltava.org/airportinfo.do?id=BON mentions arrivals on every day of the week. I can't find any, however: I can't enter TNCB/BON as a destination in the flight schedule search on the website and the PFPX file only has a departure out of TNCB (to EHAM) and no arrivals. Just to be sure I also tried to look it up using the flight number (of the departure), but KL 767 only resulted in EHAM-TNCA and TNCB-EHAM.

So departures are Tuesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday. Arrivals are Monday-Friday.

Also just an FYI for issues like this, you are more than welcome to create a help desk ticket. We can look into this further if we know about it. We don’t get a chance to check the watercooler and are not directly notified when a post is repplied.

Joe Burner (DVA12617)

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