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DVA1194
Senior Captain, MD-88
E-MAIL
Joined on April 18 2003
Century Club
Southeastern United States
112 legs, 349.3 hours
42 legs,
66.7 hours online
1 legs,
1.3 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
March 30 2004 12:02 ET by Matthew Sisson
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ok I just need to cross reference some stuff to make sure I get it done right. I've been e-mailing Mark about the 757 rankings and additional rankings for the MD-11. From what I understand to get the additional ranking(not to move up as f/o or anything just add. ranking) I still need to submitted a flight video as well as the test...and to be able to do a flight video I need to be a captain of the 757 program? Am I correct on what I understand?
also, Joe could you e-mail me at mattsisson@cableone.net please.
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DVA822
Senior Captain, B777-200
Joined on September 05 2002
Quincentenary Club
Million Mile Club
"I love the smell of jet fuel"
Northeastern United States
589 legs, 2,254.6 hours
47 legs,
112.9 hours online
97 legs,
400.7 hours ACARS
16 legs,
39.2 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
March 30 2004 12:56 ET by Trevor Fenimore
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Well it looks like you made the 757/767 program congrats man!!! Regarding the MD-11 add. rating, yes you do need a checkride, and a test, because it is a stage four aircraft.
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DVA1008
Senior Captain, B757-200
Joined on December 14 2002
B757 100 Club
Everett 250 Club
50 State Club
Six Century Club
Online Six Century Club
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary
"Fly 'till the map turns blue"
Kokomo, IN
633 legs, 1,731.3 hours
613 legs,
1,689.9 hours online
212 legs,
792.3 hours ACARS
35 legs,
77.7 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
March 30 2004 16:51 ET by Matt Young
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You can't get the MD-11 rating anyway because you're only in a Stage B aircraft.
Matt YoungSenior Captain, B757-200
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DVA1041
Senior Captain, L-1011-100
E-MAIL
Joined on January 15 2003
Double Century Club
DVA Twenty-Year Anniversary
"Fly Delta Jets!"
Cincinnati, OH
233 legs, 780.6 hours
66 legs,
123.7 hours online
20 legs,
39.6 hours ACARS
5 legs,
7.5 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
March 31 2004 09:03 ET by Matt Creed
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I'm going to go out and make a suggestion regarding the promotions procedure here, and I hope I don't upset anyone. I see that Matt Sisson (I'm using him as an example because he started this post) primarily flies a Stage 2 airplane because he chooses to do so, and he has no desire to leave the program he's in. The way it's written currently, as Matt Young points out (there are WAY too many Matts here lol), Mr. Sisson is ineligible for a Stage 4 rating because he's enrolled in a Stage 2 program. To get a Stage 4 rating now, Mr. Sisson would have to leave his MD-88 program, earn Captain rank in a Stage 3 plane, then earn a Stage 4 rating, and then, if he wanted to, he could drop back to the MD-88 program without losing the new Stage 4 rating. Wouldn't it simplify matters if we allowed a pilot who wants to fly Stage 4s but stay in a Stage 2 program to meet all the reqirements for a Stage 3 Captain, then allow them to earn Stage 4 ratings? I realize that the idea is for a pilot to demonstrate their competence in increasingly more complex aircraft before someone just jumps into a heavy and blasts off, but if the pilot is willing to "jump thru the hoops" to demonstrate their increasing abilities, I don't know that making them switch programs is really necessary.
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DVA1194
Senior Captain, MD-88
E-MAIL
Joined on April 18 2003
Century Club
Southeastern United States
112 legs, 349.3 hours
42 legs,
66.7 hours online
1 legs,
1.3 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
March 31 2004 14:14 ET by Matthew Sisson
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| I AGREE EXACALY WELL SAID!!!
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DVA1194
Senior Captain, MD-88
E-MAIL
Joined on April 18 2003
Century Club
Southeastern United States
112 legs, 349.3 hours
42 legs,
66.7 hours online
1 legs,
1.3 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
March 31 2004 14:16 ET by Matthew Sisson
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| which by the way I learned that I pretty much have to become a F/O of the 777 to be able to fly them. I have to become a capt. of the 757(that's 10 flights) and take the 757 captain test(i don't need to take the 737 capt. to fly that or do the video) which I have to do in order to fly the heavies as well. So I'm going to get to a 777f/o status AS WELL as MD-11 f/o but yet will ask to move down to the maddog...is it at all possible to do some recosideration plz?
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DVA1008
Senior Captain, B757-200
Joined on December 14 2002
B757 100 Club
Everett 250 Club
50 State Club
Six Century Club
Online Six Century Club
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary
"Fly 'till the map turns blue"
Kokomo, IN
633 legs, 1,731.3 hours
613 legs,
1,689.9 hours online
212 legs,
792.3 hours ACARS
35 legs,
77.7 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
March 31 2004 14:26 ET by Matt Young
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Where are you getting that you'll have to do that much? As soon as you get a 777 or MD-11 ratings, you can just take the test like usual for the others. READ THE PROMOTIONS MANUAL.
Matt YoungSenior Captain, B757-200
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DVA544
Senior Captain, B727-200
Joined on October 24 2001
Online Century Club
Triple Century Club
Southeastern United States
329 legs, 661.4 hours
186 legs,
368.2 hours online
47 legs,
90.0 hours ACARS
7 legs,
22.1 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
March 31 2004 14:41 ET by Joe DeGregorio
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uummm Matt(Young)..I have an MD-11 rating,but i cant take a test to get rated in the 777.,because i'de have to leave my post in the MD-88 program and become a f/o in the 777,do a check ride,sooooooooo.....kindly re-explain the promotion guide again..and if its inaccurate...it needs to be changed.
If a CP has implemented his/her own policies...these should be reflected in the promotion guide as well..no exceptions.....keep it fair all the way around....the 777 & Concorde is the only things here that I dont have a rating in...and Im not leaving the MD-88 program just to go get a rating in the 777..I can fly the 777 somewhere else legally and pirep it...for those of you that know what im talking about..;-p...and since its a code share partner..i use the DAL livery and flight # when I fly it.....theres more than one way to skin a cat...but..i think some changes are in order....just my .02..
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DVA1041
Senior Captain, L-1011-100
E-MAIL
Joined on January 15 2003
Double Century Club
DVA Twenty-Year Anniversary
"Fly Delta Jets!"
Cincinnati, OH
233 legs, 780.6 hours
66 legs,
123.7 hours online
20 legs,
39.6 hours ACARS
5 legs,
7.5 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
March 31 2004 15:50 ET by Matt Creed
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Matt Sisson, you wouldn't have to get a 777 rating to fly the MD-11. Of the stage 4 birds, the 777 was the last one of the 3 I got (MD-11 first, then a DC-8 for me). Now, I still think that you should have to take both the F/O and Captain tests and do the 10 flights in a Stage 3 bird (any of the 3, take your pick) before you should be allowed to test up into any Stage 4 bird. I just don't think that you should be required to make continual program changes up, only to step back down so you can be in the program you really want to be in.
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