Delta Virtual Airlines Water Cooler - Flights for Promotion **ATTN Mgmt**

Delta Virtual Airlines Water Cooler | Airline Operations | Flights for Promotion **ATTN Mgmt**

DVA2161
Captain, B767-300

Joined on February 19 2005

"If it ain't Boeing, I ain't going"
Midwestern United States

35 legs, 45.9 hours
21 legs, 26.9 hours online
17 legs, 21.5 hours ACARS

Posted onPost created on June 11 2005 12:09 ET by Marc Gibson

Hey,

I just switched to the 767 with the recent program split, but for some reason the counter for "flights needed to Captain promotion" in the pilot center has reset to zero. My question is, do all the 757 flights I flew before the switch still count towards promotion? If so, can somebody please update that information for me?

Thanks a lot,
Marc

Marc Gibson

Captain, B767-300

DVA1190
Senior Captain, B777-200
OLP

Joined on April 21 2003
Everett 250 Club
Online Quadruple Century Club
Quincentenary Club
50 State Club
DVA Twenty-Year Anniversary

"Never try, never fail"
Greenville, SC

524 legs, 1,777.8 hours
490 legs, 1,650.8 hours online
144 legs, 373.3 hours ACARS
35 legs, 89.2 hours event

Posted onPost created on June 11 2005 13:15 ET by David Schaum

I don't think we can reset that??? I wouldn't worry about it unless you were about to take the Captain's test and now the site won't let you. If so, let us know and maybe the IT guys can do something for you. If not, after 10 flights it'll all be cleared up anyway.

Regards,

David Schaum

Senior Captain, B777-200

DVA1041
Senior Captain, L-1011-100
E-MAIL

Joined on January 15 2003
Double Century Club
DVA Twenty-Year Anniversary

"Fly Delta Jets!"
Cincinnati, OH

233 legs, 780.6 hours
66 legs, 123.7 hours online
20 legs, 39.6 hours ACARS
5 legs, 7.5 hours event

Posted onPost created on June 11 2005 14:54 ET by Matt Creed

The site will still allow you to test regardless of number of flights flown. All flights in any 757 or 767 variant count towards promotion, although you'll need to notify us when you hit 10 flights between the 2 programs. Otherwise, we won't see you on the eligibility list until you fly 10 in that program.

Matt Creed (DVA1041)

DVA043
Senior Captain, MD-11
OLP

Joined on June 10 2001
Event Half Century Club
Online Double Century Club
50 State Club
DVA Twenty-Year Anniversary
Everett 1500 Club
Bi-Millennium Club
Four Million Mile Club

"Col. Panic"
Marietta, GA

2,347 legs, 9,466.0 hours
240 legs, 553.9 hours online
2,005 legs, 8,259.1 hours ACARS
75 legs, 196.3 hours event
2,383 legs, 9,600.9 hours total
91 legs dispatched, 66.4 hours

Posted onPost created on June 11 2005 18:26 ET by Luke Kolin

Yech. This is one thing I forgot to plan for when we switched the programs. I'm probably not going to fix this in the current database, but for DVA2006 it should get straightened out. Matt - there may be a logistical hiccup with counting 757 and 767 flights towards the 10 legs for *BOTH* programs. I'll see if I can find a solution. If not, we may need to amend how we treat them.

Cheers!

Luke Kolin

Senior Captain, MD-11

Posted onPost created on June 13 2005 05:19 ET by Marc Gibson

OK, thanks guys. I'll take the test after I've got 10 total between the 757/767, so should I send an email to the chief pilot then or what?

Thanks,
Marc

Marc Gibson

Captain, B767-300

DVA1267
Senior Captain, B777-200

Joined on July 09 2003
Triple Century Club

"Tactless, Understood, Right"
Colorado Springs, CO USA

368 legs, 1,943.8 hours
47 legs, 192.9 hours online
54 legs, 217.2 hours ACARS

Posted onPost created on June 13 2005 05:48 ET by Matt Reamy

Marc,
Until Luke get's it completely sorted out, I would suggest you fly only 767 (or only 757 flights, whichever program you're in) flights for your eligibility. This way there is no chance that the system can screw you. I don't know how it's built but why risk getting eligibility put off further by a glitch that won't let you pass the test until you've got 10 767 flights. Just my two cents worth.

Matt Reamy (DVA1267)

Posted onPost created on June 13 2005 06:29 ET by Luke Kolin

One reason why we have never gone with a fully automated system of awarding ratings is so that the system can never "screw you". There's always a manual step to ensure that even if the data is off, we can work out some sort of a reasonable solution. If there are flights that aren't marked properly, just alert your Chief Pilot to this fact.

Cheers!

Luke Kolin

Senior Captain, MD-11

DVA273
Assistant Chief Pilot, B777-200

Joined on September 07 2001
B757 100 Club
50 State Club
Tri-Jet Triumph
Three Million Mile Club
DVA Twenty-Year Anniversary
Ponce De Leon Club
Bi-Millennium Club
Everett Millennium Club

"Flying Freedom, Photography Passion"
Aurora, CO

2,206 legs, 8,894.6 hours
39 legs, 247.6 hours online
1,310 legs, 5,331.1 hours ACARS
1 legs, 1.5 hours event

Posted onPost created on June 13 2005 06:48 ET by Michael Evans

If statying with the 767 program go ahead and fly the 767 only since you are looking for a promotion within the program. This way it wont screw you up.

Michael Evans

Assistant Chief Pilot, B777-200

Posted onPost created on June 13 2005 07:25 ET by Luke Kolin

OK, serves me right. The original database schema for DVA2006 had provisions for a single PIREP counting towards promotion in multiple equipment types, but I eliminated this table since I figured "That'll never happen." In future, any time someone says "that'll never happen" I'm going to call my bookie to place a thousand bucks on that very event happenning in the near future. The higher odds, the better.

I'm going to update the DVA2006 could to provide for this. It should be a minor fix, and I'll update the migration code when I get home to properly copy over your PIREPs to reflect the "dual rating" nature of the 757/767.

Cheers!

Luke Kolin

Senior Captain, MD-11

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