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DVA938
Senior Captain, MD-88

Joined on November 03 2002
Million Mile Club
Online Seven Century Club
50 State Club
Bi-Millennium Club

Dunwoody, GA USA

2,132 legs, 4,949.7 hours
1,197 legs, 2,739.0 hours online
1,301 legs, 3,486.7 hours ACARS
16 legs, 39.5 hours event

Posted onPost created on October 11 2004 17:55 ET by Jared Angstadt

Just curious to know what you have to do to be rated to fly the concorde?

Jared Angstadt

Senior Captain, MD-88

DVA1651
Senior Captain, MD-11

Joined on April 25 2004
Everett 250 Club
50 State Club
Globetrotter
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"DAL1651 heavy is type MD-11, ready for blastoff"
Nashville, TN

879 legs, 3,275.4 hours
436 legs, 1,621.5 hours online
626 legs, 2,413.4 hours ACARS
28 legs, 89.5 hours event

Posted onPost created on October 11 2004 19:29 ET by James Marshall

I was told you have to be a Senior Captain or hold a Stage 4 first officer/captain's rating (not sure which).

James Marshall

Senior Captain, MD-11

Posted onPost created on October 11 2004 19:35 ET by Jared Angstadt

oh ok cool wasn't to sure, thx James.

Jared Angstadt

Senior Captain, MD-88

DVA1866
First Officer, B777-200

Joined on August 31 2004

Las Vegas, NV USA

41 legs, 79.4 hours
28 legs, 47.3 hours online
7 legs, 9.9 hours ACARS
4 legs, 8.2 hours event

Posted onPost created on October 11 2004 21:52 ET by Michael Odom

I though I had read somewhere that the Concorde was the only Stage 5 aircraft? Does bring up another question... since it is retired and technically an Air France flight, is there still a DVA codeshare for it?

Michael Odom (DVA1866)

DVA1740
First Officer, B757-200
E-MAIL

Joined on June 20 2004

Northeastern United States

10 legs, 34.2 hours

Posted onPost created on October 14 2004 16:52 ET by Alex Beia

www.fsfrance.com

the best concorde out there!!!!

Alex Beia (DVA1740)

DVA822
Senior Captain, B777-200

Joined on September 05 2002
Quincentenary Club
Million Mile Club

"I love the smell of jet fuel"
Northeastern United States

589 legs, 2,254.6 hours
47 legs, 112.9 hours online
97 legs, 400.7 hours ACARS
16 legs, 39.2 hours event

Posted onPost created on October 14 2004 17:35 ET by Trevor Fenimore

To get a concorde rating you have to:
1) Already have a stage four rating (i.e. 777, MD-11, DC-8)
2) Then take a checkride in the concorde which needs to be arranged with Luke, and once you pass that you will have the rating.

Trevor Fenimore (DVA822)

DVA1633
Senior Captain, L-1011-100

Joined on April 17 2004
Century Club

Den Haag, Zuid-Holland NL

163 legs, 437.6 hours
2 legs, 11.5 hours online

Posted onPost created on October 15 2004 02:13 ET by Sander Jordans

Trevor, do you still have to do an checkride for the T7 if you already hold an stage 4 rating? (the DC8 in my case)

Sander Jordans (DVA1633)

Posted onPost created on October 15 2004 13:20 ET by Trevor Fenimore

Nope, you just need one stage four rating to be eliigable for the concorde rating. So you can be rated in just a DC-8, and not a 777, or MD-11. By the way I meant to add that you do not need to be a senior captain.

Trevor Fenimore (DVA822)

DVA1633
Senior Captain, L-1011-100

Joined on April 17 2004
Century Club

Den Haag, Zuid-Holland NL

163 legs, 437.6 hours
2 legs, 11.5 hours online

Posted onPost created on October 15 2004 13:45 ET by Sander Jordans

Trevor, can you give me my T7 rating then?

thanks in advance

Sander Jordans (DVA1633)

DVA1633
Senior Captain, L-1011-100

Joined on April 17 2004
Century Club

Den Haag, Zuid-Holland NL

163 legs, 437.6 hours
2 legs, 11.5 hours online

Posted onPost created on October 15 2004 13:46 ET by Sander Jordans

LOL, some mis understanding, I mean do you have to do an checkride for al stage 4 ratings you want?

Sander Jordans (DVA1633)

Posted onPost created on October 15 2004 14:39 ET by Trevor Fenimore

Sander,
Yes you must take a seperate test, and seperate check ride for each new stage four rating. I sent you the check ride requirements after you passed the 777 F/O test about two weeks ago. If for some reason you didn't get them, or lost them, just send me an e-mail taf158@aol.com and I will send them to you again.

Trevor Fenimore (DVA822)

DVA1633
Senior Captain, L-1011-100

Joined on April 17 2004
Century Club

Den Haag, Zuid-Holland NL

163 legs, 437.6 hours
2 legs, 11.5 hours online

Posted onPost created on October 16 2004 01:24 ET by Sander Jordans

Jeah I got, made my head dizzy when I saw the wink

cheers!

DVA1379
Senior Captain, B747-400
OLP

Joined on November 07 2003
50 State Club
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DVA Twenty-Year Anniversary

Western United States

2,776 legs, 8,127.9 hours
1,837 legs, 4,365.2 hours online
2,239 legs, 6,623.2 hours ACARS
58 legs, 136.4 hours event

Posted onPost created on December 06 2004 14:23 ET by Kyle Weber

I was wondering if I could get information on how to take the checkflight for this as well as an appropriate training material for the Concorde? I'm currently a Senior Captain in the MD-88 but have my B777 and MD-11 rating.

Kyle Weber (DVA1379)

Posted onPost created on December 06 2004 14:32 ET by James Marshall

You have to be a Stage 4 pilot. I don't think you can just have the rating. Forgive me if I'm wrong.

James Marshall

Senior Captain, MD-11

Posted onPost created on December 06 2004 14:57 ET by Kyle Weber

Oh I hope not, I had been hired as a Boeing 777 pilot originally and decided to focus on MD-88s and B737s originally in my DVA career....(I may have just hurt myself by doing that if I wanna be in the Concorde program lol)

Kyle Weber (DVA1379)

DVA1008
Senior Captain, B757-200

Joined on December 14 2002
B757 100 Club
Everett 250 Club
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DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary

"Fly 'till the map turns blue"
Kokomo, IN

633 legs, 1,731.3 hours
613 legs, 1,689.9 hours online
212 legs, 792.3 hours ACARS
35 legs, 77.7 hours event

Posted onPost created on December 06 2004 15:31 ET by Matt Young

Shoot Luke an email for video requirements. You're qualified to get the rating if you have stage 4 ratings and hold a Senior Captain's rank.

Matt Young

Senior Captain, B757-200

Posted onPost created on December 06 2004 16:33 ET by Trevor Fenimore

I would just like to correct myself from the previous reply to Sander. A check ride is not required for every stage four rating that you get. You only need to take the ride for one stage four aircraft, and then all you need for the other stage four add. ratings is the F/O test.

Trevor Fenimore (DVA822)

Posted onPost created on December 06 2004 17:30 ET by Kyle Weber

Thanks for your quick responses, I have shot an email to Luke. If I have to consider a transfer to AF virtual, I may be willing to do so.

Kyle Weber (DVA1379)

DVA273
Assistant Chief Pilot, B777-200

Joined on September 07 2001
B757 100 Club
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"Flying Freedom, Photography Passion"
Aurora, CO

2,206 legs, 8,894.6 hours
39 legs, 247.6 hours online
1,310 legs, 5,331.1 hours ACARS
1 legs, 1.5 hours event

Posted onPost created on December 06 2004 19:03 ET by Michael Evans

If I am an L-1011 Senior Captain with 11+ and hold MD-11, DC-10, and ratings for smaller aircraft what remaining requirments must be met to more from Stage 3 to Stage 4?

Michael Evans

Assistant Chief Pilot, B777-200

Posted onPost created on December 06 2004 19:04 ET by Michael Evans

Moving from stage 3 to 4 what do I need to do? btw could you email me the 777 flight video checklists

Michael Evans

Assistant Chief Pilot, B777-200

DVA1044
Senior Captain, B767-300

Joined on January 12 2003
Century Club

"Fly Delta Jets"
Roswell, NM USA

127 legs, 388.8 hours
62 legs, 199.3 hours online
2 legs, 5.2 hours event

Posted onPost created on December 06 2004 19:14 ET by Lloyd Arms

Ok these questions are all making sense to me. However I think staff is being placed in a difficult position. I'm a SC in the 757-767's which are stage 3. I've recently been approved to fly the DC-8. While I've passed the 777 first officer test I accept its a completely different and more complex AC that I have only flown on my own time with the exception of the 24 hr group flight. I myself and I'm sure most if not all have complete confidence in our Staff. Let us all give them ample time to answer our questions. In the mean time I am going to continue to fly my CS 707 because it gives me great pleasure to have control of a AC that is not computer controlled. But thats just me. Until staff replies lets just fly. Thats why we are here anyway!

Lloyd Arms (DVA1044)

DVA1041
Senior Captain, L-1011-100
E-MAIL

Joined on January 15 2003
Double Century Club
DVA Twenty-Year Anniversary

"Fly Delta Jets!"
Cincinnati, OH

233 legs, 780.6 hours
66 legs, 123.7 hours online
20 legs, 39.6 hours ACARS
5 legs, 7.5 hours event

Posted onPost created on December 07 2004 18:31 ET by Matt Creed

Hey all,

I'll try to clear up a few things on the promotions policy. Right now the manual is undergoing a rewrite, hopefully we'll be able to clear up a few things in the new manual.

First, Trevor is correct. Once a pilot has earned a rating in a stage 4 aircraft by completing the appropriate F/O test and checkride, the pilot will earn additional stage 4 ratings by completing the F/O test only. No other checkrides are necessary.

Second, pilots who have previously earned stage 4 ratings and chosen to enroll in lower stage programs will be allowed to take the Concorde checkride without re-enrolling in a stage 4 aircraft type.

Finally, Senior Captains will be allowed to take the Concorde checkride regardless of stage enrollment.

This will all be spelled out in the updated Promotions Guide when it is released. If anyone has any questions regarding promotions, please don't hesitate to post them or email me directly.

Matt Creed (DVA1041)

Posted onPost created on December 08 2004 05:15 ET by Kyle Weber

Ah wonderful, just need to hear a response from Luke about the checkride and where I can get it in the email I sent him (hopefully I'll get into the Concorde program soon smile

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Posted onPost created on December 09 2004 16:47 ET by Kyle Weber

Looks like Luke hasn't checked his email in a couple of days, any chance anyone else in the staff has the Concorde checkride?

Kyle Weber (DVA1379)

DVA2018
Chief Pilot, ERJ-170
OLP, 737-ATP

Joined on November 23 2004
B757 100 Club
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DVA Twenty-Year Anniversary

Ralston, NE

12,184 legs, 27,443.3 hours
3,951 legs, 7,571.5 hours online
10,942 legs, 22,849.7 hours ACARS
4 legs, 10.7 hours event

Posted onPost created on December 09 2004 17:53 ET by Matthew Whitaker

Since you guys are talking about the Concorde I would suggest checking out discovery Wings tonight. They have a show on the last flight of the Concorde. pretty good footage. If your still up I think its coming back on around 1 AM.

Matthew Whitaker

Chief Pilot, ERJ-170

DVA043
Senior Captain, MD-11
OLP

Joined on June 10 2001
Event Half Century Club
Online Double Century Club
50 State Club
DVA Twenty-Year Anniversary
Everett 1500 Club
Bi-Millennium Club
Four Million Mile Club

"Col. Panic"
Marietta, GA

2,347 legs, 9,466.0 hours
240 legs, 553.9 hours online
2,005 legs, 8,259.1 hours ACARS
75 legs, 196.3 hours event
2,383 legs, 9,600.9 hours total
91 legs dispatched, 66.4 hours

Posted onPost created on December 09 2004 20:40 ET by Luke Kolin

Sorry about the delay. I have one checkride in for review for me tomorrow evening or Saturday. Kyle, if you want to do the checkride, I need a video of the approach into KJFK 13L from say the CRI VOR. Use the Fleet Library model, please.

Cheers!

Luke Kolin

Senior Captain, MD-11

Posted onPost created on December 10 2004 04:39 ET by Kyle Weber

Sure thing, thanks a lot sir smile

Posted onPost created on December 10 2004 18:50 ET by Kyle Weber

Just curious, should I upload it or email it to you? (if I upload it what kind of equipment should I say it is on since Concorde isn't in the list, should I just say "777 or DC-8" but with "Concorde" in the comments?)

Kyle Weber (DVA1379)

Posted onPost created on December 11 2004 12:17 ET by Kyle Weber

Well I just finished my checkride last night and posted it under "DC-8" with Concorde in the comments in the testing center, hopefully that was ok.

Kyle Weber (DVA1379)

Posted onPost created on December 11 2004 19:03 ET by Luke Kolin

That's fine. I am away for a week but I hope to have two Christmas presents for folks when I return. smile

Cheers!

Luke Kolin

Senior Captain, MD-11

DVA1044
Senior Captain, B767-300

Joined on January 12 2003
Century Club

"Fly Delta Jets"
Roswell, NM USA

127 legs, 388.8 hours
62 legs, 199.3 hours online
2 legs, 5.2 hours event

Posted onPost created on December 11 2004 19:54 ET by Lloyd Arms

Alright I'm going to take the plunge and purchase the PSS Concorde in the next couple of days. Wife says ok.

Lloyd Arms (DVA1044)

Posted onPost created on December 24 2004 13:47 ET by Kyle Weber

I submitted my checkride for the Concorde a few weeks ago but haven't heard a thing about it. Did I fail it?

Kyle Weber (DVA1379)

DVA1965
Senior Captain, A320

Joined on October 17 2004
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"16 years later, and here we are!!!!!!"
Orlando, FL

416 legs, 1,169.9 hours
398 legs, 1,141.2 hours online
317 legs, 812.3 hours ACARS
5 legs, 13.9 hours event

Posted onPost created on December 24 2004 14:48 ET by Rodlly Figari

Most likely Luke is on vacation, and you probably will get a response after Christmas :). Happy Holidays Captain

Rodlly Figari (DVA1965)

DVA341
Senior Captain, B737-800

Joined on October 15 2001
Century Club
DVA Twenty-Year Anniversary
Everett Century Club

Kefar Sava, Center District Israel

143 legs, 463.5 hours
36 legs, 79.1 hours online
39 legs, 77.6 hours ACARS
1 legs, 2.0 hours event

Posted onPost created on December 24 2004 16:08 ET by Oren Geva

If this is the case and what I need to get a Concorde rating is a group 4 rating, I would like to be rated on the Concorde (as I got the PSS one, and it is great!).
I woud appreciate it if somebody contact me about this - weather I need to submit a check ride or whatever.

Oren Geva

Senior Captain, B737-800

Posted onPost created on December 24 2004 16:10 ET by Oren Geva

Sorry, My eye sight is getting blurry as this is 4AM here.
Luke, I will submit a checkride just as Kyle did, and be waiting for your response.

Oren Geva

Senior Captain, B737-800

DVA1892
Senior Captain, MD-11

Joined on September 13 2004
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary
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"Fly Douglas Jets!"
Buenos Aires AR

460 legs, 1,384.1 hours
336 legs, 1,086.5 hours online
271 legs, 726.6 hours ACARS
12 legs, 24.6 hours event

Posted onPost created on December 24 2004 17:27 ET by Gaston Doval

Oren,

I recall the 757 being a Stage 3 aircraft. To get to the Concorde you have to be inside the following programs: B777, MD-11 or DC-8... or in a special case, be a 757/67 Senior Captain.

The Conocorde is no Stage 4, is Stage 5, special aircraft. There is no program for it. The checkride is just to get the rating to fly it.

Cheers!

Gaston Doval (DVA1892)

Posted onPost created on December 24 2004 21:02 ET by Oren Geva

Well... I am on a stage 3 program, but I do have stage 4 ratings (777,747).
Should I transfer to stage 4? I wouldn't want too, because many of my flights are shorter range than typical 777 flights, and moving will simply be a bit unappropriate...

Oren Geva

Senior Captain, B737-800

Posted onPost created on December 25 2004 03:35 ET by Matt Creed

Oren,

If you hold Stage 4 ratings you need not enroll in a Stage 4 program simply to get the Concorde rating. The prerequisites are either a Stage 4 rating or Senior Captain's rank. Contact Luke for the checkride requirements and you'll be on your way.

Matt Creed (DVA1041)

Posted onPost created on December 25 2004 12:59 ET by Oren Geva

Thanks.
Will do that as soon as he's back.

Oren Geva

Senior Captain, B737-800

Posted onPost created on December 26 2004 11:48 ET by Luke Kolin

I'm back - just managed to get through the videos I had waiting.

Cheers!

Luke Kolin

Senior Captain, MD-11

Posted onPost created on December 26 2004 12:55 ET by Oren Geva

Hey Luke,

Could you please email me with the requirements for the checkride to get the concorde rating?

I'd like to take the PSS out of her hangar!

Oren Geva

Senior Captain, B737-800

Posted onPost created on December 26 2004 18:18 ET by Kyle Weber

Woohoo now I can say that I'm a Concorde Senior Captain...well pilot I guess since there isn't a program for it yet lol.

Kyle Weber (DVA1379)

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