Delta Virtual Airlines Water Cooler - ****Other virtual airlines steals our menu****

Delta Virtual Airlines Water Cooler | Airline Operations | ****Other virtual airlines steals our menu****

DVA1339
Captain, CRJ-200

Joined on September 26 2003

Southeastern United States

69 legs, 182.6 hours
2 legs, 3.2 hours online

Posted onPost created on March 27 2004 06:22 ET by Brian Jesus

Look at this, this virtual airliner stole our menu: http://www.skyairlines.com.br/ . If you right click over it and click on "view source" you will see the deltava url there and everything. People just can't help it trying to be like us, the best virtual airline out there.:)

Brian Jesus (DVA1339)

DVA953
Senior Captain, B737-800
E-MAIL

Joined on November 17 2002
50 State Club
Double Century Club
Online Double Century Club

"V1 means V1..."
West Lafayette, IN USA

214 legs, 376.8 hours
211 legs, 373.0 hours online
117 legs, 223.6 hours ACARS

Posted onPost created on March 27 2004 06:29 ET by James Brickell

I don't know what Luke wants to do about that but they're stealing our stuff! Let's have Dave set up a war with them and see what goes down wink

DVA544
Senior Captain, B727-200

Joined on October 24 2001
Online Century Club
Triple Century Club

Southeastern United States

329 legs, 661.4 hours
186 legs, 368.2 hours online
47 legs, 90.0 hours ACARS
7 legs, 22.1 hours event

Posted onPost created on March 27 2004 07:01 ET by Joe DeGregorio

maybe a **very polite** email from Luke and Terry will clear it up very fast.....;-p

DVA320
Senior Captain, B777-200
E-MAIL

Joined on September 22 2001
Online Double Century Club
Triple Century Club

Midwestern United States

365 legs, 1,242.5 hours
353 legs, 1,216.6 hours online
2 legs, 4.6 hours ACARS

Posted onPost created on March 27 2004 09:16 ET by Awais Ahsan

I don't really care, cause we made it first and we have over 700 people to tell that. Do what you can do about it, but we are still the best!

Awais Ahsan (DVA320)

DVA1140
First Officer, B757-200

Joined on March 16 2003
Double Century Club

Western Europe

254 legs, 1,137.4 hours
10 legs, 24.5 hours online
324 legs, 1,393.2 hours total

Posted onPost created on March 27 2004 09:21 ET by Daniel Counahan

they stole the whole site template. but just put different wording on it. if this site is copyrighted they are in breach of copyright law.
Cheers
Daniel Counahan

Daniel Counahan (DVA1140)

DVA803
Senior Captain, CRJ-200
E-MAIL

Joined on August 22 2002
Online Century Club
Double Century Club

Midwestern United States

210 legs, 339.3 hours
199 legs, 324.4 hours online
2 legs, 4.9 hours event

Posted onPost created on March 27 2004 10:22 ET by Matt Moak

Oh but how nice of them... they took the time to save Luke's style sheet and not eat our bandwidth by linking to us. Get 'em Terry.

Matt

Matt Moak (DVA803)

DVA043
Senior Captain, MD-11
OLP

Joined on June 10 2001
Event Half Century Club
Online Double Century Club
50 State Club
DVA Twenty-Year Anniversary
Everett 1500 Club
Bi-Millennium Club
Four Million Mile Club

"Col. Panic"
Marietta, GA

2,347 legs, 9,466.0 hours
240 legs, 553.9 hours online
2,005 legs, 8,259.1 hours ACARS
75 legs, 196.3 hours event
2,383 legs, 9,600.9 hours total
91 legs dispatched, 66.4 hours

Posted onPost created on March 27 2004 10:35 ET by Luke Kolin

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

To use an Atlanta example, the competetive advantage of the Coca-Cola company is *not* the "secret formula". I'm sure probably every single soft drink manufacturer has a copy of it kicking around. The real genius of Coke is their ability to mass produce, distribute and develop a reputable world-wide brand - not the actual product formula itself.

Same thing with DVA. Our competetive advantage stems not from the actual web site look and feel, but the workflow behind those pages, the calibre of our staff and the content we provide. The other key advantage we have is YOUR interest - which makes the Water Cooler what it is. Someone could probably copy the entire site and still not match what we have.

As the owner of the copyright on our site, I probably should send them a note regarding the copyright that they claim. I have the ability but not the desire to enforce said copyright (especially not in Brazil) but I suppose an acknowledgement would be nice.

Cheers!

Luke

Luke Kolin

Senior Captain, MD-11

DVA950
Senior Captain, B737-800

Joined on November 19 2002
Online Quadruple Century Club
Millennium Club
Million Mile Club
Events Double Century Club
DVA Twenty-Year Anniversary

"Houston, We have a Problem"
Nazareth, PA USA

1,210 legs, 2,875.1 hours
1,147 legs, 2,716.7 hours online
886 legs, 1,977.2 hours ACARS
206 legs, 484.9 hours event

Posted onPost created on March 27 2004 14:07 ET by Anthony Piasecki

So true Luke, had a look at the site, Quite remarkable how similar the layout is LOL, Still doesn't beat the best VA here in the virtual communtinity at DVA though, But i must Agree, when using a design or modifying one at best, one should atleast give thnx to the author that originally designed it to begin with, I know i get a little perturbed, when I spend numerous hrs and days on these darn AFCADS for FS9 and someone comes along downloads the file adds some little stupid gate here and there and calls it theirs. Now That really Pi$$$, you get the point. I can now see why people are going from freeware to payware.... A letter should be brought forth, in my very humble opinion.

Anthony Piasecki

Senior Captain, B737-800

DVA1008
Senior Captain, B757-200

Joined on December 14 2002
B757 100 Club
Everett 250 Club
50 State Club
Six Century Club
Online Six Century Club
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary

"Fly 'till the map turns blue"
Kokomo, IN

633 legs, 1,731.3 hours
613 legs, 1,689.9 hours online
212 legs, 792.3 hours ACARS
35 legs, 77.7 hours event

Posted onPost created on March 27 2004 15:21 ET by Matt Young

I agree with Luke. They can copy all they want, but they'll never match the levels of knowledge, friendship, and professionalism we all share here.

Matt Young

Senior Captain, B757-200

DVA057
Senior Captain, B777-200
COMM

Joined on June 02 2002
Events Century Club
Six Century Club
Online Quintuple Century Club
Everett 500 Club
50 State Club
DVA Twenty-Year Anniversary

"We Are ... Penn State!"
Atlanta, GA USA

672 legs, 1,338.4 hours
531 legs, 1,076.4 hours online
392 legs, 786.1 hours ACARS
190 legs, 406.3 hours event

Posted onPost created on March 27 2004 16:47 ET by Terry Eshenour

Luke if you are true to the metaphor about Coca-Cola you will defend to the bitter end brand, logoform, copyright and proprietary rights. You are correct about the cola formula. Cole's legal department would make a legion. The fact that Coca-Cola is a secretformula known to a few select employees and locked in SunTrust Bank vault adds to the mystique and cache for the product. Your secret is the functioning scripts.

I think you are doing the right thing to send them an email pointing out that they used copyrighted material without permission. They can save the trouble of corecting it by simply joining us.

Terry Eshenour

Senior Captain, B777-200

Posted onPost created on March 27 2004 17:49 ET by Joe DeGregorio

Im not sure I want a bunch of thieves within our ranks....those guys down there,not necessariley the same folks,but from the same country none the less,have violated many model copyrites and have really ticked off a lot of the freeware aircraft makers.
Me,IMO...well....I think a surgical strike by Seal Team 5 is in order.

Posted onPost created on March 27 2004 19:06 ET by Luke Kolin

I have sent them a polite note. They are more than welcome to use the design, but they cannot claim ownership or copyright.

Cheers!

Luke

Luke Kolin

Senior Captain, MD-11

DVA455
Senior Captain, MD-88

Joined on April 29 2002
Century Club

"Aquatone"
Shelbyville, IN

132 legs, 255.8 hours
79 legs, 158.6 hours online
29 legs, 52.9 hours ACARS
2 legs, 3.8 hours event
276 legs, 632.7 hours total
23 legs dispatched, 11.3 hours

Posted onPost created on March 27 2004 23:40 ET by Ryan Watkins

As my personal hero, General George S. Patton, once said regarding Feild Marshall Romell, we ought to come face to face, them in their planes, us in ours, get out, shake hands and do battle. That would decide the outcome of the war. lol

Let's declare "War" with them on Vatsim like we had with CVA!! lol [calm down, Spike, too many war movies... hehe]

Ryan Watkins (DVA455)

Posted onPost created on March 28 2004 05:06 ET by Joe DeGregorio

Luke,if you view source on the side nav bar on their site....this is what you see..

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">  ZHTML> <HEAD>

Posted onPost created on March 28 2004 05:06 ET by Joe DeGregorio

hhmmm...its posting the whole code....imma email it to ya on note pad.

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