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DVA1650
Captain, L-1011-100
Joined on April 24 2004
Century Club
"The O-N-L-Y Way to Fly!"
Southeastern United States
103 legs, 174.7 hours
49 legs,
94.5 hours online
2 legs,
2.1 hours ACARS
2 legs,
3.2 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
November 19 2004 08:15 ET by Daniel Malneritch
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Can we obtain a rating for the DC-3, etc? Or can we fly them and submit the PIREP?
Daniel MalneritchCaptain, L-1011-100
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DVA1651
Senior Captain, MD-11
Joined on April 25 2004
Everett 250 Club
50 State Club
Globetrotter
DVA Ten-Year Anniversary
Million Mile Club
Eight Century Club
Online Quadruple Century Club
White Pearl Accomplishment
"DAL1651 heavy is type MD-11, ready for blastoff"
Nashville, TN
879 legs, 3,275.4 hours
436 legs,
1,621.5 hours online
626 legs,
2,413.4 hours ACARS
28 legs,
89.5 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
November 19 2004 08:34 ET by James Marshall
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You should be rated in the DC-3/DC-6 if I'm not mistaken.
James MarshallSenior Captain, MD-11
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DVA1650
Captain, L-1011-100
Joined on April 24 2004
Century Club
"The O-N-L-Y Way to Fly!"
Southeastern United States
103 legs, 174.7 hours
49 legs,
94.5 hours online
2 legs,
2.1 hours ACARS
2 legs,
3.2 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
November 19 2004 09:38 ET by Daniel Malneritch
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It's not listed in the pilot center. I got a nice long list, but no DC-3/6 or Constellation.
Daniel MalneritchCaptain, L-1011-100
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DVA1651
Senior Captain, MD-11
Joined on April 25 2004
Everett 250 Club
50 State Club
Globetrotter
DVA Ten-Year Anniversary
Million Mile Club
Eight Century Club
Online Quadruple Century Club
White Pearl Accomplishment
"DAL1651 heavy is type MD-11, ready for blastoff"
Nashville, TN
879 legs, 3,275.4 hours
436 legs,
1,621.5 hours online
626 legs,
2,413.4 hours ACARS
28 legs,
89.5 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
November 19 2004 09:54 ET by James Marshall
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Try taking the f/o test for the program equal to it for an additional rating. If you pass you should be able to fly it then.
James MarshallSenior Captain, MD-11
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DVA1650
Captain, L-1011-100
Joined on April 24 2004
Century Club
"The O-N-L-Y Way to Fly!"
Southeastern United States
103 legs, 174.7 hours
49 legs,
94.5 hours online
2 legs,
2.1 hours ACARS
2 legs,
3.2 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
November 19 2004 10:22 ET by Daniel Malneritch
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Which program would that be?
Daniel MalneritchCaptain, L-1011-100
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DVA1633
Senior Captain, L-1011-100
Joined on April 17 2004
Century Club
Den Haag, Zuid-Holland NL
163 legs, 437.6 hours
2 legs,
11.5 hours online
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Posted onPost created on
November 19 2004 11:07 ET by Sander Jordans
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guys guys! it's not availible at the moment, Matt Creed is working on a way to make shure everyone can get the rating.
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DVA1650
Captain, L-1011-100
Joined on April 24 2004
Century Club
"The O-N-L-Y Way to Fly!"
Southeastern United States
103 legs, 174.7 hours
49 legs,
94.5 hours online
2 legs,
2.1 hours ACARS
2 legs,
3.2 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
November 19 2004 11:11 ET by Daniel Malneritch
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roger, so I'll wait to fly those wonderful birds. thanx
Daniel MalneritchCaptain, L-1011-100
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AFV011
Senior Captain, B777-300
Joined on September 19 2004
GVA 5 Year Anniversary
Online Two Fifty Club
Triple Century Club
Historic Triple Century Club
"Remember...140, 250, and REALLY FAST"
Midwestern United States
394 legs, 606.7 hours
274 legs,
430.6 hours online
86 legs,
126.5 hours ACARS
8 legs,
16.0 hours event
501 legs, 763.5 hours total
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Posted onPost created on
November 19 2004 14:51 ET by Michael Carter
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We're concurently trying to decide how to work the Vintage Prop Program ourselves. We're fairly sure of what catagories the aircraft will be assigned but since there is limited info at best on these aircraft, we're unsure of what the standards should be for testing, if it comes to that, or what documentation we can come up with for the aircraft.
The DC-3 will probably be the easiest to research since it is still in service, with many aircraft produced. The DC-6 and the Connie documentation is going to be a bit harder to come by. The same goes for the Comet and the Caravelle, but Delta won't have to worry about those two.
No one that I know of has any information on cockpit checklists, procedures, recommended flap settings or limitations, V-speeds, etc. In other words, we're going to have to test these aircraft by the seat of our pants and see what we can get away with, and what works and what doesn't. I've already experimented with the Caravelle and have a pretty good idea of it's flight characteristics for the installed model.
There are also some flight problems and avionics problems with at least two of the vintage aircraft that I'm personally aware of, and those issues need to be fixed or worked around in order to level the playing field on the aircraft and the pilots who fly them. The workload on these two aircraft is very high...higher than it should be for realism.
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DVA1427
Senior Captain, MD-11
OLP
Joined on December 14 2003
Online Double Century Club
50 State Club
Tri-Jet Triumph
Globetrotter
Moose Club
US Capital Club
Everett 250 Club
Quincentenary Club
DVA Twenty-Year Anniversary
"Livin' in the Dog Pound!"
Kannapolis, NC
558 legs, 1,984.3 hours
250 legs,
611.8 hours online
384 legs,
1,530.5 hours ACARS
38 legs,
82.7 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
November 19 2004 15:40 ET by Lewis Gregory
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Michael, are you looking at the FSDzigns L-049 Connie, or another model? That L-049 without radar nose seems to be the best evolution of a freeware Connie so far.
I've flown the calclassic.com DC-6 and yes, the workload is pretty high; however, it's also a heck of a lot of fun to get it "right" and fly that old beast the way it should be flown, with slow power reductions, slow descents, step climbs, etc. Same thing with the DC-3, I have the MAAM DC-3 and it just plain rocks. When there's a Ship 41 repaint for it, I'll PIREP a few flights with it.
Lewis GregorySenior Captain, MD-11
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AFV011
Senior Captain, B777-300
Joined on September 19 2004
GVA 5 Year Anniversary
Online Two Fifty Club
Triple Century Club
Historic Triple Century Club
"Remember...140, 250, and REALLY FAST"
Midwestern United States
394 legs, 606.7 hours
274 legs,
430.6 hours online
86 legs,
126.5 hours ACARS
8 legs,
16.0 hours event
501 legs, 763.5 hours total
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Posted onPost created on
November 19 2004 20:37 ET by Michael Carter
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Michael, are you looking at the FSDzigns L-049 Connie, or another model? That L-049 without radar nose seems to be the best evolution of a freeware Connie so far.
I've flown the calclassic.com DC-6 and yes, the workload is pretty high; however, it's also a heck of a lot of fun to get it "right" and fly that old beast the way it should be flown, with slow power reductions, slow descents, step climbs, etc. Same thing with the DC-3, I have the MAAM DC-3 and it just plain rocks. When there's a Ship 41 repaint for it, I'll PIREP a few flights with it.
Not looking for anything really. I think they are in the fleet installers, but I haven't checked. The Caravelle has a serious rolling problem to the right that i can't trin out, and doesn't even have one axis of AP.
The B707-320 has no AP available nor nav radios, but it does hand-fly nicely. I haven'y had a chance to download the other's including the Connie, DC-3 or -6, and the others. I have a lot of work ahead of me.
What I meant by the "workload being high" was the fact that these aircraft are flyable but have issues they shouldn't have. It could be because I'm using 2K2, but I haven't head anything definate about that yet.
I like the hard ones too Lewis, but mostly on TO or landing. The Caravelle in 2k2 is a real PITA to fly, though it handles like a Cessna on approach...if you can counter the right roll. The B707 is a real Queen, but difficult at best to navigate.
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