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Delta Virtual Airlines Water Cooler | Airline Operations | KL/AF merger...What can we fly?
DVA1910
Senior Captain, B777-200

Joined on September 18 2004
Triple Century Club
Online Century Club

Northeastern United States

352 legs, 1,543.8 hours
132 legs, 557.8 hours online
58 legs, 220.8 hours ACARS
1 legs, 4.3 hours event
741 legs, 3,101.2 hours total
Posted onPost created on July 06 2005 15:56 ET by Ryan Wilson
Since the AF and KLM merger (or what ever it is), are we allowed to fly KLM routes since they are a part of AF?

Ryan



AFV011
Senior Captain, B777-300

Joined on September 19 2004
GVA 5 Year Anniversary
Online Two Fifty Club
Triple Century Club
Historic Triple Century Club

"Remember...140, 250, and REALLY FAST"
Midwestern United States

394 legs, 606.7 hours
274 legs, 430.6 hours online
86 legs, 126.5 hours ACARS
8 legs, 16.0 hours event
501 legs, 763.5 hours total
Posted onPost created on July 06 2005 18:24 ET by Michael Carter
Since they are now one airline I see no reason why KLM flights cannot be flown. If they are merged, they are not codeshare any longer.

I'm going to post this in the AF ops area.
DVA1910
Senior Captain, B777-200

Joined on September 18 2004
Triple Century Club
Online Century Club

Northeastern United States

352 legs, 1,543.8 hours
132 legs, 557.8 hours online
58 legs, 220.8 hours ACARS
1 legs, 4.3 hours event
741 legs, 3,101.2 hours total
Posted onPost created on July 06 2005 19:13 ET by Ryan Wilson
Sounds cool smile

Ryan



DVA057
Senior Captain, B777-200
COMM

Joined on June 02 2002
Events Century Club
Six Century Club
Online Quintuple Century Club
Everett 500 Club
50 State Club
DVA Twenty-Year Anniversary

"We Are ... Penn State!"
Atlanta, GA USA

672 legs, 1,338.4 hours
531 legs, 1,076.4 hours online
392 legs, 786.1 hours ACARS
190 legs, 406.3 hours event
Posted onPost created on July 06 2005 19:44 ET by Terry Eshenour
While it is true that the ownership merger between KLM and AFA was announced in Sept. 2003 and completed in May 2004, airliine operations continue to be separate.

Regardless of ownership structure, DVA's policy is unchanged, we accept Air France flights and code shares bearing an Air France flight number.

The Air France relationship is special and exceptional to permit DVA pilots to fly European regional routes and aircraft not in DAL's fleet, i.e., Airbus and B747. The Air France route system dove tails nicely with Delta's since there is little overlap.

We will continue to monitor the operations merger of AFA and KLM. Until advised differently, KLM flights will not be accepted unless they are an Air France codeshare and bear a AFA flight number.

Terry Eshenour

Senior Captain, B777-200
DVA1910
Senior Captain, B777-200

Joined on September 18 2004
Triple Century Club
Online Century Club

Northeastern United States

352 legs, 1,543.8 hours
132 legs, 557.8 hours online
58 legs, 220.8 hours ACARS
1 legs, 4.3 hours event
741 legs, 3,101.2 hours total
Posted onPost created on July 06 2005 19:53 ET by Ryan Wilson
Ok. Thanks for the quick response Terry!

Ryan



DVA1271
Senior Captain, MD-11

Joined on June 27 2003
Double Century Club

Central America

234 legs, 910.2 hours
Posted onPost created on July 07 2005 01:20 ET by Rolando Alvarado-Scott
ohh.. too bad.. i was looking forward to flying klm md-11s!!


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