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Delta Virtual Airlines Water Cooler | Airline Operations | A330 Rating?
DVA2634
Captain, B777-200

Joined on October 10 2005

Midwestern United States

71 legs, 233.7 hours
20 legs, 52.8 hours online
33 legs, 148.0 hours ACARS
1 legs, 1.7 hours event
95 legs, 343.5 hours total
Posted onPost created on May 15 2006 23:03 ET by Tom Meyer
After talking with Oliver last night for a little bit, I was interested today in making an A330 flight.

That being said, what do we have to have to get the the A330 rating? I always thought it was the 777, but reading through the post that Max made a little bit ago, some people said it was the 767 rating. So, which is it? I'm guessing still the 777 as the A330 is a huge plane, but I just wanted to check and make sure.

EDIT: Do we even have an A330 flights? Nothing comes up when I select an A330. Hmm.

I realize Delta doesn't use them, but I know AF does, are there no code share flights that we can fly?

Tom Meyer

Captain, B777-200
DVA2634
Captain, B777-200

Joined on October 10 2005

Midwestern United States

71 legs, 233.7 hours
20 legs, 52.8 hours online
33 legs, 148.0 hours ACARS
1 legs, 1.7 hours event
95 legs, 343.5 hours total
Posted onPost created on May 16 2006 16:25 ET by Tom Meyer
Bueller? Bueller? Bueller?

Tom Meyer

Captain, B777-200
AFV046
Senior Captain, B747-400

Joined on September 18 2004
International Tourist
Online Two Fifty Club
Triple Century Club

HK

389 legs, 1,557.4 hours
243 legs, 964.7 hours online
345 legs, 1,353.2 hours ACARS
21 legs, 92.7 hours event
741 legs, 3,101.2 hours total
4 legs dispatched, 4.1 hours
Posted onPost created on May 16 2006 16:43 ET by Ryan Wilson
Tom,
Rest assured that there are A330 flights, but they are not showing up in the DVA database for some reason. I'm looking at them right now from the AFV side. I belive that what came out of the last A330 thread was that the A330 was a rating that came with the 767 rating. You can fly any AFR flight you wish, and you can use the A330 on any one of those flights. You can also use the A330 on any flight that you wish to fly for DVA as long as it makes the flight with enough fuel for an alternate.

Hope that clears everything up!

Ryan Wilson

Senior Captain, B747-400
DVA2634
Captain, B777-200

Joined on October 10 2005

Midwestern United States

71 legs, 233.7 hours
20 legs, 52.8 hours online
33 legs, 148.0 hours ACARS
1 legs, 1.7 hours event
95 legs, 343.5 hours total
Posted onPost created on May 16 2006 16:54 ET by Tom Meyer
Thanks for the reply Ryan. That clears most everything up. One more question though.

Seeing as I got hired into the 757 program, I had my 767 ratings when I was hired. At the time, I don't believe the A330 was part of stage 3. How do I go about getting the A330 rating put into my qualified section? I would hate to make an A330 flight and not get credit for it since it isn't there. Is there anything I need to do to get it there? Maybe take the 767 FO exam?

Tom Meyer

Captain, B777-200
DVA2482
Chief Pilot, B777-200

Joined on July 16 2005
Online Double Century Club
50 State Club
Flying Colonel
Globetrotter
Everett Millennium Club
Six Million Mile Club
DVA Twenty-Year Anniversary

"Master of Gravity"
Boston, MA USA

1,909 legs, 11,955.3 hours
228 legs, 1,400.0 hours online
1,752 legs, 11,085.1 hours ACARS
7 legs, 57.1 hours event
Posted onPost created on May 16 2006 17:01 ET by Oliver McRae
Speak to your Chief Pilot to add the A330 rating, the A330 is stage 3 as it competes with the 767's in Size range and capacity. And we can't have the A330 as stage 4 and the 767 as stage 3 as the case used to be. A340 is still stage 4 however.


DVA2634
Captain, B777-200

Joined on October 10 2005

Midwestern United States

71 legs, 233.7 hours
20 legs, 52.8 hours online
33 legs, 148.0 hours ACARS
1 legs, 1.7 hours event
95 legs, 343.5 hours total
Posted onPost created on May 16 2006 17:06 ET by Tom Meyer
Thanks Oliver, I'll email Lewis.


This is all your fault you know. Talking to you about Airbuses the other night, made me go to PSS and buy them. nuts

Definitely different then a Boeing, but I don't really understand why people have so many problems with them. They seem perfectly fine to me. I already made a flight last night with the A320. Figured I would see if I can make an A330 flight as well. Give me some time to learn them and we can make a flight together some day Oliver. smile

Tom Meyer

Captain, B777-200
DVA2482
Chief Pilot, B777-200

Joined on July 16 2005
Online Double Century Club
50 State Club
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Globetrotter
Everett Millennium Club
Six Million Mile Club
DVA Twenty-Year Anniversary

"Master of Gravity"
Boston, MA USA

1,909 legs, 11,955.3 hours
228 legs, 1,400.0 hours online
1,752 legs, 11,085.1 hours ACARS
7 legs, 57.1 hours event
Posted onPost created on May 16 2006 17:16 ET by Oliver McRae
Yay, oh BTW for the A320 to fly properly in FS2004, when you fly it, go to views->> Intrument panel and UNCHECK "System only do not use". The A320 is nice so is the A340, their A330's FDE needs a bit of work but is ok.
Providing you have the 767 ratings you should have the A330.



AFV046
Senior Captain, B747-400

Joined on September 18 2004
International Tourist
Online Two Fifty Club
Triple Century Club

HK

389 legs, 1,557.4 hours
243 legs, 964.7 hours online
345 legs, 1,353.2 hours ACARS
21 legs, 92.7 hours event
741 legs, 3,101.2 hours total
4 legs dispatched, 4.1 hours
Posted onPost created on May 16 2006 17:20 ET by Ryan Wilson
Glad to see everything worked outfor you Tom! The PSS A3XX are really nice birds. Glad to see that Oliver (the Airbus posterboy smile ) changed some people's minds about the Airbuses. They are not that bad once you get used to them!

Ryan Wilson

Senior Captain, B747-400
DVA2634
Captain, B777-200

Joined on October 10 2005

Midwestern United States

71 legs, 233.7 hours
20 legs, 52.8 hours online
33 legs, 148.0 hours ACARS
1 legs, 1.7 hours event
95 legs, 343.5 hours total
Posted onPost created on May 16 2006 17:50 ET by Tom Meyer
Oliver, what does that do? "system only do not use". Thanks for the tip.

Ryan, I think what helped me is I didn't go into it thinking, "If it's not Boeing, I'm not going". I've never had anything against Airbuses, I've never been in one in real life, and up until now, hadn't had a chance to fly a nice one in FS.

Now that I have these, I really can't wait for the PMDG A320 to come out. I'll be there refreshing the forum every second waiting for release.

Tom Meyer

Captain, B777-200
DVA2482
Chief Pilot, B777-200

Joined on July 16 2005
Online Double Century Club
50 State Club
Flying Colonel
Globetrotter
Everett Millennium Club
Six Million Mile Club
DVA Twenty-Year Anniversary

"Master of Gravity"
Boston, MA USA

1,909 legs, 11,955.3 hours
228 legs, 1,400.0 hours online
1,752 legs, 11,085.1 hours ACARS
7 legs, 57.1 hours event
Posted onPost created on May 16 2006 17:53 ET by Oliver McRae
well for most users of it in FS2004 when unchecked the Autopilot banks at like 75 degrees and literally dives when you engage it. So best to just keep it unchecked for unchecked there are no problems.
Thats just for the A320 tho. A330 and A340 are fine as is.
Just incase you missed it and i hope not, you know you can switch between IFR and VFR Views, VFR is what i fly in most of the time. as it doesn't block your entire view.

IFR View http://www.deltava.org/thread.do?id=0x6773

VFR View http://www.deltava.org/thread.do?id=0x6772

For the A340



DVA2634
Captain, B777-200

Joined on October 10 2005

Midwestern United States

71 legs, 233.7 hours
20 legs, 52.8 hours online
33 legs, 148.0 hours ACARS
1 legs, 1.7 hours event
95 legs, 343.5 hours total
Posted onPost created on May 17 2006 06:25 ET by Tom Meyer
Yep Oliver, I figured that out. About the first thing I do when I load a plane up for the first time is go through all the shift keys, just to see what opens what panel with my eyes.

On a side note, I heard back from David Keech and was told that the A330 is still a stage 4 aircraft.

Tom Meyer

Captain, B777-200
DVA2482
Chief Pilot, B777-200

Joined on July 16 2005
Online Double Century Club
50 State Club
Flying Colonel
Globetrotter
Everett Millennium Club
Six Million Mile Club
DVA Twenty-Year Anniversary

"Master of Gravity"
Boston, MA USA

1,909 legs, 11,955.3 hours
228 legs, 1,400.0 hours online
1,752 legs, 11,085.1 hours ACARS
7 legs, 57.1 hours event
Posted onPost created on May 17 2006 08:58 ET by Oliver McRae
I guess they looked at it like the A330 is a part of the A340 Family, but the 767-300 is to the A330-200 and the 767-400 is to the A330-300.


DVA043
Senior Captain, MD-11
OLP

Joined on June 10 2001
Event Half Century Club
Online Double Century Club
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Bi-Millennium Club
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"Col. Panic"
Marietta, GA

2,347 legs, 9,466.0 hours
240 legs, 553.9 hours online
2,005 legs, 8,259.1 hours ACARS
75 legs, 196.3 hours event
2,383 legs, 9,600.9 hours total
91 legs dispatched, 66.4 hours
Posted onPost created on May 17 2006 08:59 ET by Luke Kolin
I think there's some confusion here. Let me check on a few things.

Cheers!

Luke Kolin

Senior Captain, MD-11
DVA1633
Senior Captain, L-1011-100

Joined on April 17 2004
Century Club

Den Haag, Zuid-Holland NL

163 legs, 437.6 hours
2 legs, 11.5 hours online
Posted onPost created on May 18 2006 05:26 ET by Sander Jordans
"I guess they looked at it like the A330 is a part of the A340 Family, but the 767-300 is to the A330-200 and the 767-400 is to the A330-300."

the A-330-200 is similar in capicity and size to the 767-400 (but still a bit larger) and the A-330-300 is closer to the 777-200A. I think its logical they are in the same stage as the A-340 as the A-330-200 has the same fusselage as the A-340-200 and the A-330-300 has the same fusselage as the A-340-300. also, both A-330 subtypes are larger and heavier then their 767 counterparts.



AFV005
Senior Captain, A330-200
OLP

Joined on March 22 2003
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Under African Skies

"You cannot negotiate with gravity"
Long Beach, CA

2,086 legs, 5,277.7 hours
1,880 legs, 4,385.6 hours online
1,571 legs, 3,472.9 hours ACARS
27 legs, 72.5 hours event
2,350 legs, 6,067.2 hours total
Posted onPost created on May 18 2006 14:37 ET by Kerem Yogurtcugil
A33Xs were in stage 4 program but downgraded to stage3. I believe the similatiries for B767s. How I know, I was once a stage4 pilot and now stage3. Still can fly the stage4's thou. plotting


DVA2634
Captain, B777-200

Joined on October 10 2005

Midwestern United States

71 legs, 233.7 hours
20 legs, 52.8 hours online
33 legs, 148.0 hours ACARS
1 legs, 1.7 hours event
95 legs, 343.5 hours total
Posted onPost created on May 21 2006 15:59 ET by Tom Meyer
Luke, any word? I've noticed a few people around the cooler who when they got their 767 rating recived the A330 rating as well. Just eager to make flight in the A330.

Thanks.

Tom Meyer

Captain, B777-200
DVA2634
Captain, B777-200

Joined on October 10 2005

Midwestern United States

71 legs, 233.7 hours
20 legs, 52.8 hours online
33 legs, 148.0 hours ACARS
1 legs, 1.7 hours event
95 legs, 343.5 hours total
Posted onPost created on May 21 2006 23:35 ET by Tom Meyer
Thanks Luke. wink

Tom Meyer

Captain, B777-200
Progress Spinner


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