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DVA4225
Captain, B757-200

Joined on March 21 2007

Pensacola, FL USA

86 legs, 137.6 hours
7 legs, 8.7 hours online
72 legs, 114.6 hours ACARS

Posted onPost created on April 17 2007 14:35 ET by Michael Rafferty

I was browsing the midweek ops (tomorrow) from Minneapolis to Lincoln and wondering why, on a 288NM route, is the route planned on Victor airways (17,000 and below)? The suggested FL is 300. We should be using Jet aiways (at least FL180 or above).

Michael Rafferty

Captain, B757-200

DVA3538
Senior Captain, B767-300

Joined on September 11 2006
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Elka Park, NY USA

270 legs, 642.4 hours
84 legs, 182.0 hours online
218 legs, 548.8 hours ACARS
41 legs, 90.9 hours event

Posted onPost created on April 17 2007 16:04 ET by Kusan Mcgill

good question.

Kusan Mcgill (DVA3538)

DVA613
Senior Captain, B727-200
OLP, VFRADV

Joined on June 17 2002
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Charlotte, NC USA

2,509 legs, 4,025.8 hours
2,328 legs, 3,644.8 hours online
2,142 legs, 3,186.8 hours ACARS
130 legs, 238.7 hours event
165 legs dispatched, 103.9 hours

Posted onPost created on April 17 2007 19:46 ET by David Keech

because that is what vatsim uses on the simroutes website. I use flightaware and the route ORSKY2 OVR. So the choice is yours. My bet is that route is for VFR aircraft like the EMB120.

David Keech (DVA613)

DVA057
Senior Captain, B777-200
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Atlanta, GA USA

672 legs, 1,338.4 hours
531 legs, 1,076.4 hours online
392 legs, 786.1 hours ACARS
190 legs, 406.3 hours event

Posted onPost created on April 17 2007 20:27 ET by Terry Eshenour

Many commercial flights use Victor flyways in their planning for those destinations that are off a Jet airway and do not have published approaches or departures. One that I am familiar with is the route Comair flies to/from ATL to MDT (my childhood home). Flightaware currently reporting:

SUMMT3 VXV J91 TONIO J42 BKW ESL V377 HAR

HAR V265 BINNS EMI J48 ODF FLCON1

I believe and someone please confirm this, that you need to be at or below 18,000' when flying a Victor. The track log of the RW flight would support this.

Terry Eshenour

Senior Captain, B777-200

DVA4225
Captain, B757-200

Joined on March 21 2007

Pensacola, FL USA

86 legs, 137.6 hours
7 legs, 8.7 hours online
72 legs, 114.6 hours ACARS

Posted onPost created on April 17 2007 20:46 ET by Michael Rafferty

Terry, you are correct in that you can file Victor airways whenever you plan to be below FL180. All airways are planned (generally) to avoid Special Use Airspace (SUA). That's why we file airways in most cases. If you fly direct between navaids, you must ensure that you will not fly through Prohibited, active Restricted airspace, or active Military Operations Areas (MOAs). ATC will not clear you IFR through these when they are "hot." Victor airways are generally not nearly as direct since most SUA restrictions in the contiguous US are below FL180. It should be noted that Victor airways are never valid at FL180 or higher. You can still fly the "airway" but it would be filed as "direct" between Victor airway naviads.

Michael Rafferty

Captain, B757-200

DVA2239
First Officer, B777-200

Joined on March 27 2005
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Norman, OK

121 legs, 470.4 hours
113 legs, 448.0 hours online
81 legs, 341.3 hours ACARS

Posted onPost created on April 17 2007 22:16 ET by David Reimer

I use Flight Aware to get routes,

And use the relitivly new feature of Generate Route, so now I can get FS9 flight files for Activesky.

David Reimer

First Officer, B777-200

DVA3651
Captain, B737-800

Joined on October 22 2006
Century Club

Midwestern United States

144 legs, 251.3 hours
92 legs, 174.4 hours online
141 legs, 247.4 hours ACARS
7 legs, 14.8 hours event

Posted onPost created on April 18 2007 16:48 ET by Aaron Nell

I wanted to ask what the time of the event is. It says 20:00 on the calender but when you click to sign up it says the event is at 19:00.

Aaron Nell (DVA3651)

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