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DVA3787
Senior Captain, CRJ-200
OLP

Joined on December 01 2006
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"Small planes don't make small brains"
Western Europe

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Posted onPost created on July 19 2007 13:45 ET by Mark Salter

Well, I've been practicing for the B737 checkride and so far have had little success. I can taxi, takeoff and cruise safely, and I'm good at the routing procedure, but when it comes to the landing either one of three things happen:

1. I come in on approach and 20 feet from the runway I stall or
2. I end up overshoting the runway
3. My wheels bounce off right back into the air

Does anyone have any tips on how to make better visual approach and landings? I'm not aloud to use the autopilot 20 miles from the airport, and the runway has no ILS frequency to help you get on the glide slope.

Any information is appreciated.

Mark Salter

Senior Captain, CRJ-200

DVA4558
Captain, B777-200

Joined on June 07 2007
Double Century Club
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Romania

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Posted onPost created on July 19 2007 16:07 ET by Lucas Leonard

read the B737 manual and do like in the manual (that help me on my checkrides)

Lucas Leonard (DVA4558)

DVA4559
Captain, B737-800

Joined on June 12 2007

"ah got them noo autypilots"
Klepp, Rogaland Norway

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Posted onPost created on July 19 2007 17:22 ET by Tomas Bakke

1. You can use autothrottle through the whole checkride (I could on my B738 checkride)
2. Practice, do landings only. Start in the air 25nm from runway and land over and over.
3. Be sure to arm the spoilers so that they deploy at touchdown, also set autobrakes to 1 (or more)

For a better visual approach: I think you're allowed to take the checkride with clear weather.

I think the whole point of the checkride is to prove that YOU (not the A/P) can fly the plane smile

Good luck and don't give up. This is what you learn from wink

Tomas Bakke

Captain, B737-800

DVA4444
Captain, B767-300

Joined on May 11 2007

"What's more exciting than a widget?"
Diamond Bar, CA USA

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Posted onPost created on July 19 2007 17:39 ET by Tom Balderrama

What is your speed when you stall 20 ft. away ,and what is your fpm on landing?

Tom Balderrama

Captain, B767-300

DVA4141
Senior Captain, B737-800

Joined on March 03 2007
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Northeastern United States

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Posted onPost created on July 19 2007 17:45 ET by Scott Brinson

Yeah, I got some great advice!!! STAY IN THE PATTERN AND PRACTICE ILS APPROACHES!!! Practice makes perfect my man!!! Trust Me!!!!!

GOOD LUCK!!

Posted onPost created on July 19 2007 17:50 ET by Mark Salter

I'm not sure of my stalling speed, I never checked razz

I'll think I'll just take Tomas's advice and land over and over until I get it. Does anyone else do this?
Thanks for all the advice.

Mark Salter

Senior Captain, CRJ-200

DVA2570
Senior Captain, B727-200
COMM

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Mesa, AZ

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Posted onPost created on July 19 2007 18:03 ET by Jim Pray

If you have a chance check out the Flight Academy. A lot of the issues you are talking about are addressed in the lessons. If you have any questions shoot me an email.

Jim Pray (DVA2570)

Posted onPost created on July 19 2007 23:15 ET by Mark Salter

thanks Jim, that might be a good idea, all I need now is FS copilot

Mark Salter

Senior Captain, CRJ-200

DVA2750
Senior Captain, B757-200

Joined on December 17 2005
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Montgomery, AL USA

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Posted onPost created on July 20 2007 00:35 ET by Derek Bradley

You should be roughly 130ish when crossing the threshold. Throttles idle and flare at about 30 feet and touchdown 120-125kias. Try to keep 2 white, two red on the PAPI's.

Posted onPost created on July 20 2007 01:16 ET by Mark Salter

I just joined the Acedmy, maybe this will be a good first step before I start my CR.

Mark Salter

Senior Captain, CRJ-200

DVA4629
Captain, A350-900

Joined on June 25 2007
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Helmstedt, Niedersachsen Germany

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Posted onPost created on July 20 2007 02:06 ET by Christian Franke

hmm... first idea, switch of A/T and A/P. use the throttle by yourself. allways remeber there are to ways to increase and decrease speed. a) use the throttle (flaps) c) change the angle of attack. if you are comin in to fast, try to get a biggier angel and let the a/c fly a little bit further along the rwy. you probably climb a bit, but decrease speed. now, you also configured the plane correct for the back wheels to land. (keep an eye on a possible tail strike!). the other way arround, this does NOT work. if you are too slow give some more thrust. you will see the behavior of an fixin to stall plane. more thrust until you reach green dot speed and then once again, release thrust. That should get the job done.

Euroman smile

Christian Franke

Captain, A350-900

DVA1320
Senior Captain, B777-200
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Posted onPost created on July 20 2007 07:55 ET by Daniel Ward

Or you can always ask your friendly 737 staff... wink

DVA2253
Senior Captain, DC-8-61
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Posted onPost created on July 20 2007 09:22 ET by George Lewis

When I went to obtain the MD88 rating, what I did was read the manual, get the speeds, flap settings, etc. and then go out and fly it in the traffic pattern. After 20 or 30 touch and goes, I had a good feel for the airplane... You'll learn how to do the traffic pattern and touch and goes in the flight academy.

George Lewis (DVA2253)

DVA3908
Captain, B757-200

Joined on January 11 2007

"Landing Gear .... CHECK"
Newport, KY USA

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Posted onPost created on July 20 2007 10:11 ET by Benjamin Duerk

When i did it i started at Clarr every time and flew in from there and did it about 5 times then filed a checkride flight. Patience and don't fly to fast slow your self to around 190 - 210 kts before you cross the mountains so you don't carry to much speed on the descent is what i found to be the best combination so i didn't have to lean on the brakes

Benjamin Duerk

Captain, B757-200

Posted onPost created on July 20 2007 10:42 ET by Mark Salter

What I need is to download some flap settings. Does anyone know where to find a chart ciontaining these?

Mark Salter

Senior Captain, CRJ-200

DVA4444
Captain, B767-300

Joined on May 11 2007

"What's more exciting than a widget?"
Diamond Bar, CA USA

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Posted onPost created on July 20 2007 10:58 ET by Tom Balderrama

No but I normally go with 5 degrees on takeoff and put them up when I hit 3000ft. and 25- 30 upon landing.

Tom Balderrama

Captain, B767-300

DVA2086
Senior Captain, B767-300
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Sharpsburg, GA USA

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Posted onPost created on July 20 2007 11:01 ET by Chris Williams

As a side note, the 737 checkride sounds like fun. I'm going to try it out. A real fun approach into KLAS is the RNAV RWY19R approach.

BTW - I normally land with about 7,000lbs of fuel in the 737-800 which usually gives me a VREF of 130kts with Flaps 30. I usually fly the final approach at 135kts. This sets me up nicely for a good landing.

Chris Williams

Senior Captain, B767-300

DVA2869
First Officer, B757-200

Joined on June 01 2003

"Mad Dog Dodge!"
Southeastern United States

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Posted onPost created on July 20 2007 11:34 ET by Malachi Dodge

Mark I practice landings all of the time. Usually atleast once a day. smile

Mad Dog!

Malachi Dodge

First Officer, B757-200

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