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Controllers , the Cool and the not so cool |
DVA4522
Captain, B747-400
Joined on June 02 2007
Triple Century Club
"Too much fuel is for sissies"
Middle East
322 legs, 577.6 hours
42 legs,
71.0 hours online
274 legs,
467.1 hours ACARS
1 legs,
2.5 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
August 31 2007 08:12 ET by Fathi Qaisi
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if you ever wondered why controllers are mostly brisque serious people , listen to this guy at JFK ,
he is furious and almost about to lose it :
http://www.cnyaviation.com/audio/JFKGround.mp3
This poor pilot faces the scare of her life. note the cool controller :
http://www.cnyaviation.com/audio/Caravan_Icing_Incident.mp3
nice site cnyaviation .com , just thought id share
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DVA4604
Captain, B757-200
Joined on June 20 2007
Century Club
Online Century Club
"Reach for the skies"
Norwalk, CT
138 legs, 210.3 hours
122 legs,
187.8 hours online
96 legs,
130.5 hours ACARS
5 legs,
12.0 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
August 31 2007 08:40 ET by Scott Bonito
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Wow...talk about directing a messy traffic. That guy was comical though.
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DVA4604
Captain, B757-200
Joined on June 20 2007
Century Club
Online Century Club
"Reach for the skies"
Norwalk, CT
138 legs, 210.3 hours
122 legs,
187.8 hours online
96 legs,
130.5 hours ACARS
5 legs,
12.0 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
August 31 2007 08:46 ET by Scott Bonito
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PS...yikes for that poor woman!
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DVA3064
Captain, B757-200
E-MAIL
Joined on April 17 2006
Century Club
Online Century Club
"Conquering the western skies"
Western United States
195 legs, 466.9 hours
149 legs,
361.7 hours online
109 legs,
263.4 hours ACARS
3 legs,
8.3 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
August 31 2007 12:16 ET by Nick Garner
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yea that was crazy, lol that guy from JFK Ive heard before because hes funny hes always on liveatc.net , he always has an attitude, and it seem jetblue is always having issues
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DVA3196
Senior Captain, MD-11
OLP, COMM
Joined on June 03 2006
Online Double Century Club
50 State Club
Six Century Club
"pitchpowertrim.com"
Anderson, MO
619 legs, 1,093.4 hours
292 legs,
503.1 hours online
580 legs,
1,026.5 hours ACARS
89 legs,
191.0 hours event
236 legs dispatched, 110.1
hours
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Posted onPost created on
August 31 2007 13:19 ET by Michael Brown
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Icing is serious business with respect to flying. I have always thought that it is crazy to certify GA aircraft for flying into icing conditions even if they have boots. This incident simply underscores how important preflight planning is. All pilots should get the latest weather (Departure, enroute, arrival, alternate, etc.) as close to their planned T/O time as practical. After that pilots need to have a plan B & C if they get caught up in deteriorating conditions.
IMO, even if your an experienced commercial pilot with IFR endorsement always plan on steering clear of weather. If that means going over it, under it, or flying around it. I'd rather pay more $$$, take on more fuel and fly around a weather system than take a chance going through it only to save a little bit of time.
When in doubt, don't take-off.
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DVA2192
Senior Captain, A320
OLP
Joined on March 14 2005
50 State Club
Million Mile Club
Flying Colonel
Online Fifteen Century
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary
Long Beach 500 Club
Attleboro, MA USA
1,703 legs, 3,149.7 hours
1,635 legs,
2,989.8 hours online
1,667 legs,
3,076.4 hours ACARS
3 legs,
5.5 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
August 31 2007 13:23 ET by Richard Walsh
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It's not rocket science, it's Jet Blue!
Richard WalshSenior Captain, A320
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DVA4290
Senior Captain, CRJ-200
Joined on April 04 2007
50 State Club
Online Triple Century Club
Quincentenary Club
"Lightning coming out of that one"
Houston, TX USA
502 legs, 829.4 hours
340 legs,
575.5 hours online
421 legs,
683.7 hours ACARS
41 legs,
81.2 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
August 31 2007 15:10 ET by Andrew Lynn
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Yea, I've heard this guy before also. He's real funny but I can only imagine how stressful it must be to work the tower in JFK.
Andrew LynnSenior Captain, CRJ-200
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DVA2888
Captain, EMB-120
COMM
Joined on February 09 2006
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary
Gainesville, FL USA
33 legs, 41.4 hours
5 legs,
6.0 hours online
16 legs,
18.9 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
September 01 2007 15:04 ET by Eric Rosenberg
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Why in the world would she want to continue flying for 2 more hours after subjecting her airplane to severe maneuvers and icing... why not land and check out the plane, wait for weather to improve??? She really took unnecessary risks at that point. Stupid.
Eric RosenbergCaptain, EMB-120
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DVA4522
Captain, B747-400
Joined on June 02 2007
Triple Century Club
"Too much fuel is for sissies"
Middle East
322 legs, 577.6 hours
42 legs,
71.0 hours online
274 legs,
467.1 hours ACARS
1 legs,
2.5 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
September 01 2007 17:30 ET by Fathi Qaisi
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Actually that was was one of the things that crossed my mind , she seemed to be really rattled after that near death experience she should not have been continuing to fly for 2 hours. I doubt if she flew alot after that, not in icing conditions anyway
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DVA4814
Captain, B757-200
Joined on August 03 2007
Southeastern United States
67 legs, 163.1 hours
55 legs,
130.1 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
September 01 2007 18:34 ET by Michael Read
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I think the ground controller is the one who's confused. It sounds like the pilots knew exactly where they were. It was good for a laugh though.
Michael ReadCaptain, B757-200
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DVA3787
Senior Captain, CRJ-200
OLP
Joined on December 01 2006
Double Century Club
50 State Club
Online Double Century Club
"Small planes don't make small brains"
Western Europe
277 legs, 515.9 hours
204 legs,
397.0 hours online
244 legs,
456.2 hours ACARS
39 legs,
80.6 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
September 01 2007 23:06 ET by Mark Salter
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I agree with Eric and Michael completely. I got to check out these websites.
Mark SalterSenior Captain, CRJ-200
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DVA4653
Captain, B727-200
Joined on July 01 2007
Six Century Club
50 State Club
"SLC...Artificial heart of America"
Salt Lake City, UT USA
745 legs, 1,588.8 hours
4 legs,
5.5 hours online
744 legs,
1,587.7 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
September 02 2007 02:25 ET by Monty Stewart
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I think I had this same ground controller (and some of his family and friends) try and make reservations with me when I worked for Delta rez. a few years back. It was a three ring circus just trying to find a flight. Apparently not much has changed!
Monty StewartCaptain, B727-200
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DVA3064
Captain, B757-200
E-MAIL
Joined on April 17 2006
Century Club
Online Century Club
"Conquering the western skies"
Western United States
195 legs, 466.9 hours
149 legs,
361.7 hours online
109 legs,
263.4 hours ACARS
3 legs,
8.3 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
September 02 2007 09:18 ET by Nick Garner
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He just reminds me of somone from Rocky, cracks me up.
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DVA4241
Assistant Chief Pilot, MD-88
Joined on March 20 2007
Millennium Club
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary
Long Beach 500 Club
Online Millennium Club
"Kepping my head in the clouds"
Kansas City, MO
1,326 legs, 2,593.2 hours
1,165 legs,
2,293.9 hours online
1,289 legs,
2,497.5 hours ACARS
28 legs,
67.4 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
September 06 2007 02:17 ET by Chad Rhinehart
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How funny that jfk grnd cntrlr at the end was cracking open a six pack with his feet kicked up with the attitude of screw it go where you want to.
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DVA3721
Captain, B777-200
Joined on November 14 2006
Everett Century Club
50 State Club
DVA Ten-Year Anniversary
Triple Century Club
Kent, WA
342 legs, 935.3 hours
36 legs,
66.4 hours online
225 legs,
647.5 hours ACARS
4 legs,
9.9 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
September 08 2007 11:22 ET by Ian Phillips
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I couldn't hear it. If you click on the link, it said that the website could not be found on this server. It also wouldn't let me right click and save target as.
Ian PhillipsCaptain, B777-200
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DVA4604
Captain, B757-200
Joined on June 20 2007
Century Club
Online Century Club
"Reach for the skies"
Norwalk, CT
138 legs, 210.3 hours
122 legs,
187.8 hours online
96 legs,
130.5 hours ACARS
5 legs,
12.0 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
September 08 2007 14:13 ET by Scott Bonito
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Ya...same problem...did they move it?
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DVA4526
Captain, MD-11
Joined on June 04 2007
Double Century Club
"Fly Navy Jets!"
New York, NY USA
257 legs, 1,298.7 hours
14 legs,
38.3 hours online
122 legs,
480.4 hours ACARS
590 legs, 2,849.0 hours total
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Posted onPost created on
September 08 2007 14:52 ET by Brady Molloy
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Whe nI listen to kennedy tower I here him too and he's on tower when all of the asian airlines are comming in.
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