Delta Virtual Airlines Water Cooler - Fleet 757/767 Auto-Land (How to)

Delta Virtual Airlines Water Cooler | Airline Operations | Fleet 757/767 Auto-Land (How to)

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Posted onPost created on December 30 2007 14:23 ET by Andrew Lynn

Some folks wasasking about this on ACARS chat yesterday. I've done it before, and i'm pretty sure a lot of people out there have done it too, but not too many people are aware that this freeware (fleet 75/76) has the capabilities, but it does. You can actually find the instructions on how to do it in the panel manuel by Lonny Payne t hat comes with the download. The basic gist of it though, capture the localizer and intercept the ILS at the right altitude, and make sure both your CMD buttons are lit.

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Posted onPost created on December 30 2007 21:22 ET by Jason D'Ambrosio

You cant fully auto land on any free ware aircraft besides that there is no fun in auto landing you don't get to do anything... Do you know what i mean like you just a 2 hour flight on auto pilot then you let the plane land it self .... i realized it after i learned how to do auto lands it isn't mutch fun and other plane like wilco A320 and PMDG737 those don't do it very well but they can do it.

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Posted onPost created on December 30 2007 21:44 ET by Chuck Gehman

But some weather you HAVE to autoland, below min's.

But I know what you mean, my first 20 or so landings with the Level-D were ALL autolands, then started hand-flying them and just last night finally made an autoland to make sure the thing still worked! Had not made one in close to a year.

Another thing to do is hand-fly the aircraft up to cruise every once in awhile. All the button pushing will really erode your hand-flying skills quickly if you never actually hand fly the aircraft.

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Posted onPost created on December 30 2007 21:48 ET by Robby Chiste

I wonder when I last did a full auto land....haha! smile

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Posted onPost created on December 31 2007 11:00 ET by Andrew Lynn

No sure what you mean by full autoland Jason, but i've done it in the fleet 757 many times just for kicks to see how it works. It even retards the throttles for you as you come to about 50.

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Posted onPost created on December 31 2007 11:31 ET by Jason D'Ambrosio

I understand that but it ins't flaring for you

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Posted onPost created on December 31 2007 12:23 ET by Andrew Lynn

I does

, it flares for you also. Trust me, when I had finally read through the manual (never did because it's freeware) I saw the auto-land feature and tried it out. Everything went as planned. It brought me over the runway, flared and brought back the throttles to idle. The only thing you have to do is reverse. Try it out, if you do it right, you'll see what Im talking about.

::EDIT:: As a side note, I usually hand fly below 7,000. It's more fun that way anyway, I just tune ,my radios so I can follow the correct path to the runway but that's about it. I just made this post because some guys was asking about the feature the other day.

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Posted onPost created on December 31 2007 14:39 ET by Ricardo Sosa

It does have autoland, however it "attempts" to flare. Meanwhile it's starting it's flare I've already touched down at -500 though -700 f/tmin. And like you guys said, unless the weather is bad, why would you autoland?, it takes the fun out of it.

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Posted onPost created on December 31 2007 15:10 ET by Mark Salter

First off, whether or not autoland is fun or not is complete opinion, the real question Andrew is trying to ask is how to do it-so let's get back on topic shall we?

Andrew, you seem to have it right, you input your ILS frequency and once you're on the glide slope make sure you have both CMD's pressed and the plane should land for you. Flare, retard, all that stuff. I'm not sure if it does reverse thrust though...

However my personal experience shows that the feature rarely gives you a good feet/minute rating (usually rating at least -500 f/m) and doesn't work very well in crosswinds.

My opinion on autoland: It is a good feature to include if weather is below minimums and you might make an even worse landing by hand... You can also use it if you're just a little lazy-there are not any requirements for use after all. However I find that 99% of the time approach hold without autoland is much smoother. I also believe that you should always know how to safely fly the plane in all conditions and all phases of flight by hand. Even if you'll never have to, there is no point in having a pilot at all if you lack such knowledge.

The choice is yours!

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Posted onPost created on December 31 2007 15:34 ET by Alex Sanchez

Now the we are one this topic, Can somebody explain me the Rollout mode LVL D 767's have?

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Posted onPost created on December 31 2007 15:36 ET by Mark Salter

Alex, when you say rollout mode, do you mean how to perform a rollout in that aircraft, or how autoland performs a rollout?

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Posted onPost created on December 31 2007 16:21 ET by Andrew Lynn

"I'm not sure if it does reverse thrust though... ". Not sure about the real thing but you have to reverse youself when you doing it in the fleet.

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Posted onPost created on December 31 2007 20:59 ET by Chuck Gehman

Speed, Speed, Speed gentleman. Any aircraft can be setup perfectly for a perfect autoland, BUT 15 knots either way in terms of vref/vapp and it will have near disastrous consequences.

One way the aircraft "rotates" the mains into the ground while attempting to flare, speed the other way the thing will float off the far end of the runway like a May butterfly.

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Posted onPost created on January 01 2008 12:31 ET by Matthew Wright

Correct me if i am wrong gents, but it seems that the autoland in the 75 and 76 panel doesn't work for FSX. I have tried multiple times just to see how it works, but it doesn't flare. I read the instructions and everything, but still doesn't work.

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Posted onPost created on January 01 2008 13:40 ET by Andrew Lynn

http://www.deltava.org/thread.do?id=0xc654

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